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Hi all,
Would somebody please tell me if I am right to assume that the airbox snorkel is installed only to reduce air intake noise? I can't for the life of me believe it fills any other function.
My dealer said screw around with the snorkel and you will have a mid-throttle flat spot. My feeling is if I use Pat's handy dandy calculator and rejet, or shim, or both and only if I have developed a flat spot I will not have a cronic problem. What say you all and thanks for this fantastic web site.
Blueback -Canuck
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Just pull the snorkel out completely. It will allow more air in and your bike will run better. You are not going to have to re-jet from just yanking that thing out.
Soren
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hey bro i tried the bike without the snorkel runs faster which is a bonus but really splutters
did you re block the airbox after taking of the tube?
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"Lighten up, Francis."
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Just pull the snorkel out completely. It will allow more air in and your bike will run better. You are not going to have to re-jet from just yanking that thing out.
Soren
I disagree. I did that and it leaned out the top end considerably. I was running short TORs at the time.
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I agree with Friarjohn again,with less restrictive pipes and more air you should rejet. These bikes come from the factory lean to start so in my opinion and increase in air flow should be accompanied by jetting. Lean can hurt the motor.
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what about if you plug the hole thats left by removing the snorkel from the airbox that should keep jetting normal me thinks it picked up speed quicker than with it conected yesterday i throttled the bike to 140kph today same stretch of tarmac and i was up to 150kph if you are wondering the limit was 60kph a bit of a change from my speed triple i used to go down that stretch at 200kph before selling it really miss my speed trip 
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"Lighten up, Francis."
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what about if you plug the hole thats left by removing the snorkel from the airbox
At that point I'm pretty sure there would be no air getting in at all. But I could be wrong... 
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Might run pretty rich if you plug that up. 
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But the noise would be gone! 
I wondered why the frisbee was getting bigger......and then it hit me.
'05 BA - Mulberry/Graphite,128 mains,42 pilots,TBS needles,drilled slides,debaffled stock pipes,Uni,no snorkel
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I guess there wouldn't be any noise without the engine running.
Bob
2005 America, 904cc - sold. 2014 Trophy SE.
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...really miss my speed trip ...
Man, I hear ya. A lot less happens when you twist the throttle on these... I've had mostly sport bikes up to now. Of the "cruisers" I have owned before were a VMAX, V45 Magna, V65 Sabre and Magna. Those don't really count, though LOL. This is my first real cruiser and I miss the 135+ hp in hand. I miss power wheelies, too.
However, I don't miss
the numb hands
sore wrists
tendinitis in my elbows
a crick in my neck
3k miles from a set of tires
6k on a set of brakes/sprockets/chains
whining wife while trying to sit on that acorn size/shape excuse of a seat
every biker boy in town wanting to street race and willing to kill me over it
idiots wheeling beside me-while sharing a lane
tickets in a no-tolerance state
rednecks and dirtbags shouting, "hey maing, pop a wheelie!"
the local, "it's a black thing" thug biker group
stupid insurance rate because the plastic fairings are worth more than the bike
no originality- they look the same no matter how much you modify them...
Enjoy your new wheels, brother. It is a different ride with different joys and different reasons for doing it.
2002 Bandit 1200/ GSXR cams/ 1277 BB Kit/ Holeshot header and can/ 38mm flatslides/ a good head/lotsa hp/lotsa tq- lots of rear tires...
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Agree as well. I had stock pipes and pulled the snorkle. Stuck it back in soon as I could get back in the garage. Too lean.
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well i plugged up the hole put on a filter on the end of the snorkel tube and it has slowed down the popping
still picks up quicker
though to get to top speed i do take a nap on the way to 180 kph
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am I alone or does that make little or no sense? If I read that right Melvin is running at full choke all the time. If I am wrong enlighten me.
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no it's not running at full choke
wot i did was plug the tube left by the snorkel and the popping has been reduced
the hose is now conected to a K&N filter
the bike picks up quicker than before and has less popping or backfire from the motor as i throttle down
i'll post a pic of the bike with the new pipes and filter fitted ok
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got some pics posted in the pics section shows the short pipes and the snorkel re-conected to the filter
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Maybe I'm a dumbazz but Melvin's photo labeled snorkle_contected looks a lot more like a crankcase breather than the snorkle that came off my airbox.
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is'nt that the snorkel conected to the crankcase breather?
if not then what is the snorkel enlighten me please
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the snorkel it the rubber intake tube that sits on top and goes down into the air filter
Erwin
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Look under your seat. It's the ribbed rubber tube that feeds the air box. It's very restrictive and pops out easily. Just give it a tug and then grab the throttle 
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but does it need rejetting once removed
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but does it need rejetting once removed
You might need to turn out your airmixture screws a bit.
Erwin
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well i've taken it of i will report my findings when i get back from my house in spain to my apartment in gibraltar
about 20 kilometers
hopefully i will find it more powerfull
by the way what sproket size doe the america have 16 or 17 as others say 18 gives you more mid to top end usability
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ok just got back 180 no pobs removal of snorkel works
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