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I went into my dealer today to order a new tire.
The subject of oil filters came up.
I told him I was using a Purolator PureOne PL14612.
He told me to be careful as that is a car filter,and the glue could break down & melt & plug the filter.
The reason being a aircooled motorcycle engine runs hotter than a Automobile engine.
Should I change the oil & filter right away?
I did a google search & found nothing.

What kind of idiotic statement was that? Your dealer is trying to sell you his filters.
Car filter, what a dork, they're way better than the Triumph filters.
Go read the post about "stupid counter people" he fits right at the top of the class. moron.
I've been using the PureOne filters for tons of miles and never had a problem with them.

Car or motorcycle...the filtration is the same. This guy is either an idiot or trying to convince you that only he can sell you what you need.

Pat,
Thanks for replying.
Everything I read about oil filters,I never saw that.
He said my tire will be in Thursday.
I also ordered a 17 tooth Sprocket.
My bike is stock except for AI removed & Thunderpipes.
Was told the 18 tooth might be a little to much for my bike if I still wanted good acceleration.
Dealer said I could also get it dynoed when the tire comes in.
I am going to have it done.
Thanks again for replying...

Man, as many BA guys who've gone from 17 to 18, you could have gotten one for postage.
Remember, check here before you make a move!

Dowop, there's a great thread floating around somewhere about choosing between 17or 18. The ONLY thing it may hinder at al is the low end 1st gear accelleration. Then the only difference is you just shift at different speeds. If anything, it HELPS on-road accelleration because you can hang out in 3rd gear longer and just punch it around people. But go check out the threat, lots of posts, lots of opinions, and hey, it's your bike!!

I hope you're not going to trust them to dyno tune your bike?
You would end up spending $300 and having it run like doggie doo-doo.

If he was thinking of a Fram filter, I would believe it.

He isn`t going to tune it.
The plan is to just put it on the dyno to check out the HP.
I did not ask the price yet.
Dumb me.

Hi Pat (no, not you Dinqua! )

Definitely bullcrap on the filter. Talk to the mechanic there instead of the dealer, they typically know more...

If you haven't paid for the dyno, ask before you do... I've seen them here (Ft. Lauderdale) for $30 a pull.

I wouldn't be worried about the glue melting, but I would be concerned about any oil filter that used glue to hold the internals together. Fram and Purolator are both know to use paper, cardboard and glue. Why do you think their filters are so cheap to buy.

I could go into a long dissertation on oil filters, but I really don't want to bore everyone. Basically if you are going to use a cheap filter change it often.

Tom

tcv, If you read studies on the internet,testers rate the Purolator as one of the best quality filters out there! See for yourself. Which one do you think is the best, and why. Al

Exactly right Vegas. That is the precise reason I use only the PureOne filters, and they are available almost anywhere for about $5-$6

Dinqua,why are folks using the pl's 610/12? When I go to the Purolator web site the part that comes up for our filter is ML16819. Our local auto parts store will order em for ya, but they cost $12.50 each.I just went ahead and went to the Triumph dealer and bought a stock one. Al

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When I go to the Purolator web site the part that comes up for our filter is ML16819

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Dunno why. See post about "Stoopid Counter people" for more info.

I have had absolutely NO problems with these filters. They work perfect, fit perfect, filter better than anything else. Period.
The other filter must be a "Motorcycle specific" filter, like the Oh-so-special Mobil oil made exclusevily for triumphs, but sold in the jugs at Wally Mart as Mobil 1 4MXT, or soemthing like that.
Motorcycle specific = charge twice as much for same stuff. Must be used to the Harley guys, "It costs more, so it MUST be better", attitudes.

If it worries you, don't sweat it, just buy teh stock filters and help support the dealer network, not a bad thing.
Me, I'll stick with my PureOne and a bonus six pack of beer for the price of a triumph filter.

I didn`t mention this in my previous posts.
The filter that my dealer sells is the Fram PH 6017 A.

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The filter that my dealer sells is the Fram PH 6017 A.

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Oh my god, this dealer of yours just keeps digging a deeper and deeper hole for himself isn't he?
First he says that one of the highest rated filters in existence is no good for your bike for bs reasons, then he has the nads to actuall sell the biggest pieces of dung on the market as filters? What a hoser this guy is. Yumpin yiminees, runaway! Runaway! Clap the coconuts together and runaway! Fast!
I bet his service department is pretty busy though, from guys that actually listen to his line because he is the dealer and "must" know his stuff.
Shows to go ya don't it?

Sorry if I gave the inference that the Purolator and Pure 1 filters were as bad as a Fram oil filter, because they are not. In the test results of oil filters that I have seen both the Purolator and Pure 1 filters are in the middle of the pack with Fram being near the bottom. The only filters that I have seen tested with a better rating than the Purolator or Pure 1 filters is Hastings, Hard Driver, Mobil 1 and Amsoil.

Where the Purolator and Pure 1 filters fall short is in the SAE HS806 Filter Capacity test. Both tested out at more than 35% below the best filter. The Pure 1 filter was very close to the best filter in the SAE HS806 Filtration Efficiency test.

So if you are going to pick between the Purolator or Pure 1 filters go with the Pure 1.

Tom