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How much can i expect to pay for freight and set up on a new America? Thanks
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Depends on the dealer. My dealer charges $450.
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some dealers will waive it to make a deal.
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It probably depends on how you are dressed. Mine just charged me $249.....but I got a free T shirt.
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Do not get involved in all those "dealer charges". The problem is, you make a deal for a price you agree on, then when the dealer goes to write it up he starts tacking on extra charges for "Freight", "Dealer Prep", "Documentation Fee" etc. and you end up paying a lot more than you anticipated.
Insted, when you make an offer, offer an "out the door" price. That way you will know exactly what you are going to end up paying. When the dealer comes back with his counter offer, make sure it is an "out the door" price.
You should never have to pay MSRP or heaven forbid more than MSRP with all the extra charges tacked on. For instance, when I bought my 05 Speedmaster, I believe MSRP was $7999.00. I offered the dealer $7250.00 "out the door" (note this did not include sales tax because I bought it out of my home state, if I was buying it in state I would have made a higher offer that did include sales tax). We finally agreed on $7500.00 "Out the Door".
If the dealer insists on MSRP just walk. There are plenty of dealers out there that are willing to deal to make a sale, all you have to do is keep looking (I live in Illinois and ended up buying my bike from a dealer in Wisconsin, only about 75 miles away but worth the trip).
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Vance
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The first shop wanted almost 1200 for all the prep, destination and set up (yes...prep and set up, two different charges) for EACH bike!
Where I bought my bikes it was 400 for everything on two bikes and then the price of the bikes we agreed on.
SOLD: 07 Black BA, 39mm FCRs, TPUSA stage 1 head, TPUSA 813 cams, TPUSA 10.8:1 pistons, TTP #3 igniter, Specialty Spares Long Cannons, Tsukayu Hard Bags. 82HP/55tq
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I cry  everytime you guys go on about how much you pay for your bikes, and then you haggle over the price. A dealer in the UK will give a little bit if you are paying cash but you still end up paying double what you guys pay 
Ray(UK)
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You can buy one here and have it shipped...I cant imagine shipping would cost the same as the bike.
SOLD: 07 Black BA, 39mm FCRs, TPUSA stage 1 head, TPUSA 813 cams, TPUSA 10.8:1 pistons, TTP #3 igniter, Specialty Spares Long Cannons, Tsukayu Hard Bags. 82HP/55tq
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If you vacation alot you could take a few parts home at a time in your pockets and save shipping. 
I learned all I need to know about life by killing smart people and eating their brains.
Eat right ,Exercise ,Stay fit, Die Anyway!
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It probably depends on how you are dressed. Mine just charged me $249.....but I got a free T shirt.
So, you're trying to say that they felt sorry for you; gave you a discount and you looked like you needed a new shirt?  
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It probably depends on how you are dressed. Mine just charged me $249.....but I got a free T shirt.
So, you're trying to say that they felt sorry for you; gave you a discount and you looked like you needed a new shirt?
Soren
SOLD: 07 Black BA, 39mm FCRs, TPUSA stage 1 head, TPUSA 813 cams, TPUSA 10.8:1 pistons, TTP #3 igniter, Specialty Spares Long Cannons, Tsukayu Hard Bags. 82HP/55tq
NEW: 19 Goldwing Tour DCT
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In Australia the speedmaster retails for $15,590 the America $14,990 and you can add around $1500.00 for on road and delivery. The Harley sportster 883 is $11,250 + on road. How does this compare with the good ole USA. 
Phil C
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BTW, welcome Astor. I paid what they had on the sticker plus sales tax. They should not add anything else to it. I bought my 04 Speedy for $7,900 plus 8% Washington State sales tax.
Dave
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Same here I paid the price negotiated plus tax and tags nothing more.6% tax here. I never heard off all these prep charges but I did buy both of ours slightly used so not sure what Herm would have asked for new.
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No no no the dealer never feels sorry for you, I just tought there must be some theory on how they arrive at the arbitrary fees that they charge. Upon further reflection I believe it's tied to man made global warming. I think they gave me the free shirt because of the guiltt of taking the shirt off my back.
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Well in the USA there is no comparison betweem a Speedmaster and a harley 883. 
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I cry everytime you guys go on about how much you pay for your bikes, and then you haggle over the price. A dealer in the UK will give a little bit if you are paying cash but you still end up paying double what you guys pay
No VAT tax in the US 
We all like to think of ourselves as rugged individualists. But when push comes to shove most of us are sheep who do what we are told. Worst of all, a lot of us become unpaid agents of whoever is controlling the agenda by enforcing the current dogma on the few rugged individualists who actually exist.
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Brand new 05 America purrchased in Jan 06 (not stupid, I am)
with the following goodies
Tach 160.00
sissy bar and rack 360.00
TOR's 395.00
Triumph bags 355.00
Bike 7900.00 list
total list $9,170.00
total paid $8,300.00
not bad but I had to leave the dealer and wait for a phone call to get it...
OH and since then I have a cpl K into shiny bits, pipes, doo-dads
THE VOICE OF REASON
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In Australia the speedmaster retails for $15,590 the America $14,990 and you can add around $1500.00 for on road and delivery. The Harley sportster 883 is $11,250 + on road. How does this compare with the good ole USA.
Yes, but you are paying the "Can Ride ALL Year, EVERY Year" Tax in Tas' aren't you? Only fair I'd say...
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I cry everytime you guys go on about how much you pay for your bikes, and then you haggle over the price. A dealer in the UK will give a little bit if you are paying cash but you still end up paying double what you guys pay
Taxes man, taxes!! Would you have the Queen Mum buying her shoes second hand? Or the Mary Rose kept in just some old plain drab museum, instead of a custom built, super-high tech environmental chamber to preserve her for eternity? Not to mention the fab English weather you guys are blessed with (not that New England is much better!)...
Wait, send us the Queen and there'd be no difference!!!
Signed,
Your Humble Subject in County Litchfield in Connecticut Colony....
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No comparison? Arn`t they both mid sized cruisers. Whats the price difference? 
Phil C
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Yeah and on some of the best roads you will find anywhere. 
Phil C
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I got about 8% of list price... £400 off.
And my dealer kinda felt sorry for me. He knew I wanted to get another one after the incedent with the 03 and when he'd had another dealer on the phone wanting the black one on his sales floor he called me and 15 minutes later I was there and putting the depsosit on.
Either that or he didn't get commission of the dealer sale, but would from me...
Gina
03 America - Pretty stock - except the TBS wheel... 
06 America - missing, presumed in bits. With it's TBS wheel... 
09 America - It's very blue....
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No comparison? Arn`t they both mid sized cruisers. Whats the price difference?
Base price on a low end snortster 883 is around 6,500 USD
2007 America 7,999 USD.
Most people in the US dont put the snorty in the cruiser catagory. Most harley riders dont even consider it a Harley.
The percentage you're paying is too high-priced
While you're living beyond all your means
And the man in the suit has just bought a new car
From the profit he's made on your dreams
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Strange..... Isn`t the harley sportster their iconic bike that has stood the test of time. What do Americans think of the BUELL then. Surely the sportster is to slow to be considered anthing else than a cruiser. 
Phil C
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Astor,
When I bought my 06 TBA, I had check around, I live in Ohio. The four quots I got were $8406.00, $8500.00, $9000.00 which was at NorthCoast near Toledo which is also no longer in business, The last place I found was $7199. plus tax and title. $7727. out the door. If possible check around. Had to go an extra 60 miles to get it but was worth the extra time.
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Surely the sportster is to slow to be considered anthing else than a cruiser.
True, but when it was originally brought out decades ago (and any of you true bike historians feel free to step up and correct me), it was supposed to be a sporty challenger to the then KINGS of the sport bike market, bikes like the Bonneville. It, like people, has just gotten slower, fatter and a little less sharp around the edges with age...
As for the Buell, I'm not much into crotch rockets, but as crotch rockets go, I think it's a nicely done and attractive bike!
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What do Americans think of the BUELL then.
Obviously it depends on who you ask, but, from what I have gatherd from a lot of sport bike kids out there, they have a hard time with the concept of an American sport bike. They grasp the concept of an English sport bike much easier, but still think only the Japanese can build a real sport bike.
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What soren said, it depends on who you ask about the Buel,
I've heard its got a great frame and suspention for cornering and will do all the sport bike tricks. But it lacks motor.
My opinion.. its a an attempt by HD to get a piece of the sporbike market. Folks who buy them want a sportbike, but have an unreasonable fear of Japanese or European bikes. So settle for an inferior machine.
If you go to an HD forum and ask the same question, I'm sure you will be told "It's the best sport bike ever made"
The percentage you're paying is too high-priced
While you're living beyond all your means
And the man in the suit has just bought a new car
From the profit he's made on your dreams
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