A friend of mine runs a second hand Harley dealer. No money down, no payments for the summer, than just 8 years of 233 a month. Give me a break. Its sickening when you figure out just how much he is making on these bikes. 4-8 for trade (if its a harely less if its not) clean em up, slap on some new paint and shiny bits and put them up for sale for 10-19k, do all in house financing so that your making interest on these 8 year loans. And he even has a repo man contracted so he can resell the bike again, after the owner stops paying. What a scam, and he wonders why I didn't buy from him.