Loudness without a deep, throaty quality to the sound is not what you want. You want Bubs Slashcuts. Perfect length, look and sound. Chrome looks better than stainless and these don't turn colors. I've heard them all except for Thunderbike pipes. Bubs sound better than any of them. Loud, but not the loudest. But a real deep quality sound. NO, I don't work for Bubs.