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Robert, I love my 790 America but from what you've said in your posts, I would recommend you pay the extra 1000. and get the 865. The bike is a 3 year newer model and with the "normal" mods they are close, but the 865 will have more torque in the lower rpm range.

I'll probably do the 904 kit, but I'm waiting to see what the 08 larger cruiser is like. Unless you're doing the work yourself, you also may find that a big bore mod will cost more than $1000. parts and labor. With the newer bike you would pretty much have what you want right away.



An honest analisys...

I'm not interested in bigger displacement bike will come in 2008...
I've had lot of bikes and during this years I've discovered that the perfect/intelligent bike is in the middle...

I still have a Kawasaki ZRX1200 massively modified for power and torque. It became a difficult and dangerous bike to drive.

I had a Vulcan 1500 Classic. Big and gorgeous to look. But too soft in suspensions (bad in twisties), heavy to drive in the city, expensive to travel with, because of the weight and the displacement.

Suzuki Marauder 800 was not bad, but a bit underpowered and cheap in every part. Lot of plastic, uncorrect marks on swingharm that made difficult wheel alignment, and some minor problems.

Harley Sportster 1200 Custom ('04 rubber mount). The worst bike I've ever owned. Still heavy, lot of vibrations. Many problems and broken parts on engine, frame and electrical.
Cheap suspensions hard and bad for passenger. I've been happy when I've sold it.
But its engine was closed to what I was searching for.

The perfect bike for me is in the middle. 800-1000cc with 60-80hp and the right torque to travel alone or with passenger in every kind of road.
42-46-mpg is the right mileage range, and under 250kgs to be relatively lightweight and handle around the town.

When you go up in displacement, power and torque, the engine parts must be oversized so the weight will raise.
The mileage will decrease so the overall cost will rise.

All the parts of this Triumphs are italian/european or japanese so they are reliable, cheap and easy to find for me.
Showa shocks, Nissin brakes, metric bolts and nuts sound good to me.
Chain final drive is dirty and noisy but it's cheap and reliable.
I liked more if it had hydraulic valve spacing but I see it's also easy to fix taking parts from jap bikes (25mm shims).
230kgs is not so light, but it's still 30kg less than a rubber mount Sporty and 70kgs less than a full size >1400cc cruiser.
And 100kgs (like a full size fat ****** american man) less than a tourer like Kawi Vulcan Nomad or H-D Road King.

Be in the middle is like being able to do everything, and someone can say everything bad, but I'm not searching a specialistic bike. Just something can follow me in my everyday wishes of motorcycling and my budget...

This Triumphs when stock seem a lot underpowered, but I see that with some cheap mods, they'll become like the "intelligent" bike I'm searching for.
That's why I want to do the right choose and have the most perfect bike possible. With right torque and power, and smooth and easy and comfortable.