Thanks All,
The ones Ray has shown are the same but they have the soft tail mount on them and I was trying to find out if the mounts can come off or can the be used as is.
These are the same as the J&P http://www.jpcycles.com/productgroup.aspx?GID=F35E063E-8BF2-431C-A09D-F378811209A2


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