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I went to the Amsoil site to order my oil change and the Qt I bought last year for $7.45 is now $9.25. It appears they had three price increases in one year.Seems that the price of synthetic crude has skyrocketed also...
ModelMaker
P.S. Called a local dealer to try and negate S&H and he tells me he can get it for $9.25 a qt. PLUS S&H and can have it in less then ten days!!!
Moron......

They sell it locally in the auto stores and at the Kawasaki dealer for $7.25/qt here.

I can get the MCF 10-40 for $6.70/qt and the MCV 20-50 for $6.90/qt

Go through their website and sign up as a preferred customer. Costs $10 for the first 6 months. Go buy a case (or single bottle) of oil, do the math, and tell us what you paid per quart then.

"Synthetic Crude" - I wonder if that's what they use in the "Jumbo Shrimp" boats

from what I have been able to decern from several different sources. I believe either the Amsoil or the Mobil from Triumph (same as the stuff bigbill uses) are the 2 best choices.

Suggested retail for the syn motorcycle 20w-50 oil is $9.25 a quart before S/H and sales tax. Dealers/Preferred customers get it for $6.90 a quart before S/H & sales tax.

I am a dealer and yes Amsoil raised their prices I think 4 times over the last 2 years. Before that they hadn't raised their prices in over 6 years. Generally I sell everything at about 5% over my cost, just to make sure I don't lose money. There are plenty of dealers out there like me, who are more interested in having access to it rather than making a buck.

Tom

I have used Mobil One in everything from a 12,000 rpm sport bike to a 460 big block Ford with great results. Amsoil is too expensive.

Amsoil does cost more than Mobil 1, then again Mobil 1 actually isn't a synthetic oil either. Mobil 1 is made from Group 3 Petroleum oils. Thus one of the reason it cost less.

Tom

Group III base stocks are considered synthetic motor oil in North America.

The process essentially converts these into high quality mineral oils.

So it is the synthesis process that makes these synthetic. Of course performance is the bottom line, and I agree Amsoil is the tops. But Mobile-1 is very, very close and available just about everywhere.

20 years ago during my apprentiship we had a mobil rep come and talk to our class about oils. then he described synthetic oil as mineral oil refined over and over to be more stabil.FWIW


mike

Syn oils have been around since the late 1800's when two chemists from Standard Oil of Ohio discovered it/invented it. Up until the mid 1990's syn oil was always considered a man made oil with no petroleum products being used in production. In the 1980's Chevron came up with a new way to refine petroleum oils (higher heat with nitrogen injected), which is now classified as Group 3 oils. In the mid 1990's Castrol started using Group 3 oils and called it synthetic oil. Mobil sued Castrol and lost. After losing Mobil 1 and almost all other major oil manufacturers reformulated their syn oils using Goup 3 petroleum oils. Why did they, because it was much cheaper to use Group 3 oils instead of the Group 4 and 5 syn oils.

Mobile 1 is still a very good oil, and most of Mobil's syn racing oils are still true syn oils. But there is still a difference between petroleum and syn oils. As much as you try you can never refine all the impurities and parafins out of a mineral based oil. Which is one of the reasons Mobil 1 recommends changing their oil every 5,000 or 10,000 miles. If you remember back in the early 1990's Mobil 1 advertised a 20,000 or 25,000 miles change interval.

Tom

What happened with Castrol I wonder. That used to be "the" Triumph oil.I always ran that in all the brit stuff. Still run the heavy duty SAE 30 in my trucks.

at the fleet where I work, we ran mobil delvac 1 in several of our diesels for 3 years. just changing the filters and addind makeup oil regularly. also took lab samples and sent them in every 4 months. engines ran as long as the others.

mike

Here we go again. Synthetic, is synthetic, is synthetic. Why pay such a high price when you can save the money and still get protection using Mobile, Castrol,valvoline etc... As long as it's synthetic and at least a 40 or 50 weight........Angelis

Just thought I would let people know I checked at my local NAPA and the Amsoil 20-50 motorcycle oil is regualr $7.99 US a quart. With my commercial acct. I can get it for $7. I think I might pay the distributor fee and order a few cases. I'll save money that way.

I never do tire of these oil discussions......

Because angelis if you look at the test charts there is a difference. Royal purple is supposed to be synthetic and from the test charts you might as well put 3in1 in there. The Amsoil and Mobil seem to be the 2 best with a couple others up there but not as good and out of those 2 Amsoil seems slightly better but so close it might just depend on the day.

I vote for Mobil One its readily available at your local auto parts store.

Pete

Less filling....tastes great.


(sorry could not help myself)