Okay and thanks, Pat. Yes, they are the same.

So that makes it roughly 12" of 1 3/4" into 16" of 1 7/8" into 22" of 2 1/2" for 50" total for a set of "long" pipes.

Cool.

2002 Bandit 1200/ GSXR cams/ 1277 BB Kit/ Holeshot header and can/ 38mm flatslides/ a good head/lotsa hp/lotsa tq- lots of rear tires...