Mark, even if you become Ricky's beyoootch. I will still hang out with you cause ya know what ever you decide to do...."its okay, baby". I don't know if Yota will understand though ..... seriously, the group looks like they do have some cool members... I met some a couple of years back at the Ga. rally when we met up with the Delphi forum group.... not snobby in the least. As Groucho used to say " I wouldn't join any group that would have me as a member"... ride safe, buddy....Gordon