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"the party" goes on in any major city around the world.
R&D and engine build & assembly will remain in the UK.
We don't know if Triumph is making a profit on The Bonnie series. Triumph is a private company. I'm guessing not much of a profit, if at all, hence the move to Thailand.
FYI, Thailand is a capitalist country and has a per capita income of $9100, 92% literacy rate, 5% annual growth rate, 4.3% unemplotment, #1 producer of tungsten in the world. I believe it is also the #1 in rice exports.
I would prefer the production stayed in the UK, then in 5 years when they cost $13000 and my 03 BA would still be worth $8000. Actually, I don't care where they are made as long as when I open the box it's a Triumph and a relatively free people made it.
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Ok, aside from the retro "Siamese Twins", what about the Rocket and the much anticipated larger twin? I guess whether or not I buy a "T" bike to replace mine will depend on where the bigger guy is made.
No one on this forum would prefer any of the manufacturing leave the UK. Nothing anyone says here will change the course that's been taken. We'll just have to see how it pans out.
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"Nothing anyone says here will change the course"
Unfortunately, I'm afraid that's true.
Mr. Bloor is a businessman(and quite sucessful) who is about
the bottom line in the end. I don't think he's a motorcycle
rider, or enthusiast. The heritage doesn't seem to fit into
the equation.
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JEEEEZUS FRACKIN KEEEERIST GIVE IT A REST!
(That's just my opinion) 
ditto 
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A bike has half the wheels my cage does.. but 3x the fun factor
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I understand that Triumph as a company is all about profit and that by building bikes in Thailand they will be adding to that bottom line.
However from my perspective when I was looking to buy a new bike, I wanted something reliable with a good reputation, and after sales service. Now I could have got all those prerequistes from any Japanese bike. Typically the Japanese have taken an idea and improved it in just about every way. BUT I DIDN'T BUY A JAPANESE BIKE!!!!!!!!
I fell in love with an '04 TBA. I bought her because she is built in the UK just like the 650 my dad used to rave about when I was a kid. I see the look he gets in his eyes everytime he sees my bike and I know what he's thinking. I know I made the right decision in buying the bike I did. I'm sorry but I don't think I could feel the same way with a Triumph with made in Thailand on it.
You can't just replace that history.
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What year is that thai bud,er bike?  Prefire has a whole new ring to it. Like Ca'ching ca'ching. Time to moth ball Vera as an example of a lost breed and go ahead and for the riding enjoyment, buy one of them thar pederarse thai bud motorsickles.
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Blah blah blaaah blahbalah blaaah blah..........
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That's it I'm tradin' for a Vento
Ya know Mike, I stopped into my local Starbucks yesterday and I SWEAR (no...not THAT type of swearing Henry) that the guy in front of me ordered a "VENTO Machiavelli Somethin' Or Other"!!!
(but then again, the wife is saying that I seem to be loosing my hearing lately TOO!!!)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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AmyLee,
The Republic Of China, aka Taiwan, does not at this present time have a communist run government, as much as those in power in Beijing would like to see that happen.
But give it a few years of americans buying all these cheap-labor made goods presently manufactured in the so-called "People's" Republic Of China(formerly known as "Red" China), and they'll have enough money to carry out their wish very very soon.
(I mean, you know us americans...always willing to help out those "in need"!) 
Actually, Dwight, the current administration, in an effort to appease Beijing, has pretty much stomped on the free government in Taipei (Taiwan), and told them NOT to antagonise Mainland China (that would be the Commies folks!), by doing anything that might even APPEAR as a move toward independence from Communist China. Now if that isn't "building Democracies", I don't know what is!!
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Here is the basic poot: All of us with a bit of grey in the muzzle remember way back when the following equation was true: Asian made = cheap junk. I still feel that way alot, maybe too much. I'll NEVER buy another SONY cd or DVD player, the last one I had I spent more $ fixing it than I paid for it. My freind had a 10 dics changer that never made it a month with out repair.
What do the badges say on the new bikes? "made in Thailand"
Designed in England? Thainglish Triumph? I'm sorry but I just don't like it.
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I would never buy a bike made in Thailand, even for half what it is worth. I have two made in Ohio and two made in England. Next bikes will be HD and Victory.
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Ok...please spare me from reading thru no less than a million posts about this, so are the thai made trumps made in an outsourced factory, or is it a Triumph factory in Thailand?
Mark
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You made the mistake of giving it credit. see what happens is everyone looks at the posts on the front page. once it falls to the second page it goes away. I will say I am sick of this post too. I know! It sucks Triumph is sourcing out to Thailand. I have been here for a short time and have already seen two posts about this.
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"I have two made in Ohio and two made in England. Next bikes will be HD and Victory."
But you will buy a Honda made in Ohio? Hmmmmm...........
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Then you can thank god you only joined up recently...
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But are they sourcing to a 3rd party who builds for everyone, or is the facility solely building triumphs?
Mark
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Then you can thank god you only joined up recently...
See, look what happend.
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From what I understand LitzerSki, it is a Triumph only plant, building the Retro line and parts.
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They are not built in Thailand. All this fuss is for nothing. As of today I accessed the U.S. version of the Triumph website.
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ABOUT TRIUMPH
Born, bred and proud to be British.
With over 100 years of history behind us, Triumph is a privately-owned British company. Our motorcycles are designed, developed and built at our factory, one of the most technologically advanced plants in the world, which is located in Hinckley, in the heart of Great Britain.
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So, you see according to the Triumph they build them in England. They would never lie to anybody would they?
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it is a Triumph only plant
If that's the case, I'd have no problem buying a Thai made trump. Being a Triumph only plant, they have the opportunity to handle their own quality control, and I don't care who you ask, just because you're a Brit doesn't mean you can build a bike ANY better than anyone else.
So I say...quit your whining. If you have a pre '07, who cares...you don't even have to worry about it. If someone else is getting a '07...who cares...your bike is NO better than theirs.
Mark
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The Duke of York in June of 06 made a speech to the Thai Chamber of Commerce. Hmmm, could Triumph have 4 plants? Anyhow he points out that the import taxes are skirted by having these plants.
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From discussions with representatives of British Manufacturers yesterday, it is clear that Thailand is an attractive location for establishing a regional or even global manufacturing base, I saw this first hand today at Triumph's motorcycle Factory 4 which will not only add to Factory 3's components plant but also add a new Paint shop and motorbike assembly line - a great example of a British company that manufactures in the UK and Thailand and sells world-wide, manufacturing companies established in Thailand that export their products can be 100% foreign owned and not subject to duty which on vehicles from Europe are not inconsiderable.
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manufacturing companies established in Thailand that export their products can be 100% foreign owned and not subject to duty which on vehicles from Europe are not inconsiderable.
National and international politicians and bureaucrats are always setting policies, tariffs and regulations that affect decisions made by business. For instance, building a new factory, or expanding one, in the EU requires you to use more energy, thus requiring the production of more CO2. CO2 is supposed to be a greenhouse gas. The EU signed the Kyoto treaty so they cannot add to their production of CO2 without violating the treaty so they send the production to Thailand which didn't sign the treaty. Thailand gets the jobs, Triumph gets cheaper production, English workers get screwed. Thanks Algore.
We all like to think of ourselves as rugged individualists. But when push comes to shove most of us are sheep who do what we are told. Worst of all, a lot of us become unpaid agents of whoever is controlling the agenda by enforcing the current dogma on the few rugged individualists who actually exist.
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Ah HA! So THIS is why ol' Al is gettin' FATTER each and every time I see him on some talk show lately, huh Larry?!  (I'll bet Big Macs are cheaper in Thailand TOO!)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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(I'll bet Big Macs are cheaper in Thailand TOO!)
I don't know about Thailand. When I was there I only ate Thai food. But when I was in Hong Kong the burgers were cheaper than in the states despite the fact that everything except the buns was flown in on refrigerated aircraft. (I didn't eat any McDonalds there either, only Chinese food, but that is what my young sailors told me.)
We all like to think of ourselves as rugged individualists. But when push comes to shove most of us are sheep who do what we are told. Worst of all, a lot of us become unpaid agents of whoever is controlling the agenda by enforcing the current dogma on the few rugged individualists who actually exist.
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Al is getting fatter cause he sits on the board of that Carbon Credit Company rich folks pay to feel good about 20,000 foot houses and private jets while they ask us ride the bus.
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Triumph is a small (compared to Japan Inc and Harley) company that makes great motorcycles. Look at the Sprint, 675, Speed Triple, Rocket III, Bonneville, etc; all at the top of their class for what they are. After the R & D and the initial bugs are worked out I could care less where my BRITISH IRON MACHINE is assembled, I want Triumph to grow and prosper!
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