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Well, ever one to promote another excuse for celebrating, following only a few short week after St. Patrick's Day is the much-underated (and underused) St. George's Day.

On Monday April 23rd, I suggest that folks wear red, or at least pin on a red rose, and go to the nearest pub to down some english beer. Here in my part of Ohio we can get Bass on tap and a number of bottled imports. Those more fortunate to be near an actual English pub can drink REAL beer - you know, the warm, unfizzy stuff.

And once again for those uncultured on the topic of Real Ale, English beer is not "warm" but "cellar temperature." Ale is brewed to be best enjoyed at a temperature of 55F. Served ice cold (which is how a good American beer should be served) is just wrong. I mention all this just to remind folks that the Americo-centric view that "English beer is warm" is just as wrong as the Anglo-centric "American beer is too cold and fizzy." The trick is to know what's what

Cry God for Harry, England, and St. George! Happy St. George's Day chaps!

Siggy

Yes, everyone wear RED......COME ON ARSENAL.

Oh sorry, wrong reason for wearing red.

Spot on on the warm v cellar temp beer. You cant beat a good drop of real ale. Fullers being my favorite. The Flying Saucer pubs often have it on tap.

I have been getting onto some of the darker American beers. Cant do the golden fizzy stuff though. Not my thing at all.

Now back to the thread. Happy St. Georges day. Oh, and whos 'Arry?

ARSENAL, ARSENAL, ARSENAL....ARSENAL, ARSENAL,ARSENAAAALLL!

is that how it goes?

Yes, BUT LOUDER!!!!!

More like this.

Arsenal have had a tough month. Losing in the League Cup final to Chelsea with a few suspensions to boot. Losing in the FA Cup to Bolton, and also to PSV Eindhoven in the Champions League. So no hardware for them this year, but they still have a Champions League spot to play for, and they beat Aston Villa today to move past Liverpool into 3rd place..

Ok.. I had to look this one up:
St George's Day
Saint George

Soren

A Pox on Ye who dares to sully the holy name of our Saintly lad Patrick,
especially after the widespread panic and despair that occurred the day of the big flood !

Aye!

[I may crie some tears o' Guinness]

I dont think to many people around here do anything for St Georges day. The local English/Americans club might.

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In one sentence you managed to disregard my whole heritage. Welsh/ Irish. HAAHAAA!!

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Ooops, sorry.

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More like this.

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Music to my ears. what a great way to start the day.

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Losing in the League Cup final to Chelsea with a few suspensions to boot. Losing in the FA Cup to Bolton, and also to PSV Eindhoven in the Champions League.

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Oh man, what a nightmare (btw, we lost in the FA Cup to Blackburn in the replay). The season is done and its only March. At least we won last night, but what a horrible game and we were lucky. But sometimes you gotta ride your luck.

Now, i thin i'll go back to that youtube link you posted. COME ON YOU GUNNERS

Of no more Importance than St Andrews day .... If it wasnt fer us Scots with all our great inventions where would the world be here are just a few and think what would us bikers be riding on if it wasnt for a Scotsmen. I never knew the heritage of inventions that actually lay within my history I am deeply ashamed.

Road Transport Innovations
A gas powered things (gas mask) : James Gregory (1638-1675)
A steam car (steam engine): William Murdoch (1754-1839) [1]
Macadam roads: John Loudon McAdam (1756-1836) [1]
Driving on the left: Determined by a Scottish-inspired Act of Parliament in 1772
The pedal bicycle: Kirkpatrick Macmillan (1813-1878) [2]
The pneumatic tyre: Robert William Thomson and John Boyd Dunlop (1822-1873) [3]
The overhead valve engine: David Dunbar Buick (1854-1929)
The speedometer: Sir Keith Elphinstone (1864-1944)
The motor lorry: John Yule in 1870
The steam tricycle: Andrew Lawson in 1895

Bridge design:
Sir William Arrol (1838-1913), Thomas Telford (1757-1834) & John Rennie (1761-1821)
Suspension bridge improvements: Sir Samuel Brown (1776-1852)
Tubular steel: Sir William Fairbairn (1789-1874)

Canals & Docks
Falkirk Wheel: ??? (Opened 2002)
Canal design: Thomas Telford (1757-1834)
Dock design: John Rennie (1761-1821)
The patent slip for docking vessels: Thomas Morton (1781-1832)
Crane design: James Bremner (1784-1856)

Lighthouses
Lighthouse design: Robert Stevenson (1772-1850)
The Drummond Light: Thomas Drummond (1797-1840)

Power Innovations
Condensing steam engine & improvements: James Watt (1736-1819)
Coal-gas lighting: William Murdock (1754-1839)
The Stirling heat engine: Rev. Robert Stirling (1790-1878)
Electro-magnetic innovations: James Clerk Maxwell (1831-79)
Carbon brushes for dynamos: George Forbes (1849-1936)
The Clark cycle gas engine: Sir Dugald Clark (1854-1932)
Wireless transformer improvements: Sir James Swinburne (1858-1958)
Cloud chamber recording of atoms: Charles T. R. Wilson (1869-1959)
Wave-powered electricity generator: Stephen Salter in 1977

Shipbuilding Innovations
The steamship paddle wheel: Patrick Miller (1731-1815)
The steam boat: William Symington (1763-1831)
Europe's first passenger steamboat: Henry Bell (1767-1830)
The first iron-hulled steamship: Sir William Fairbairn (1789-1874)
The first practical screw propeller: Robert Wilson (1803-1882)
Marine engine innovations: James Howden (1832-1913)

Heavy Industry Innovations
The carronade cannon: Robert Melville (1723-1809)
Making cast steel from wrought iron: David Mushet (1772-1847)
Wrought iron sash bars for glass houses: John C. Loudon (1783-1865)
The hot blast oven: James Beaumont Neilson (1792-1865)
The steam hammer: James Nasmyth (1808-1890)
Wire rope: Robert Stirling Newall (1812-1889)
Steam engine improvements: William Mcnaught (1831-1881)
The Fairlie, a Narrow gauge, double-bogey railway engine: Robert Francis Fairlie (1831-1885)

Agricultural Innovations
Threshing machine improvements: James Meikle (c.1690-c.1780) & Andrew Meikle (1719-1811)
Hollow pipe drainage: Sir Hugh Dalrymple, Lord Drummore (1700-1753)
The Scotch Plough: James Anderson of Hermiston (1739-1808)
Deanstonisation soil-drainage system: James Smith (1789-1850)
The mechanical reaping machine: Rev. Patrick Bell (1799-1869)
The Fresno Scraper: James Porteous (1848-1922)
The Tuley tree shelter: Graham Tuley in 1979

Communication Innovations
Print stereotyping: William Ged (1690-1749)
The balloon post: John Anderson (1726-1796)
The adhesive postage stamp and the postmark: James Chalmers (1782-1853)
The post office
The mail-van service
Universal Standard Time: Sir Sandford Fleming (1827-1915)
Light signalling between ships: Admiral Philip H. Colomb (1831-1899)
The telephone: Alexander Graham Bell (1847-1922) [ debated ]
The teleprinter: Frederick G. Creed (1871-1957)
The television: John Logie Baird (1888-1946)
Radar: Robert Watson-Watt (1892-1973)

Some Scottish publishing firsts:
The first book translated from English into a foreign language
The first edition of the Encyclopædia Britannica (1768-81)
The first English textbook on surgery (1597)
The first modern pharmacopaedia, the Materia Medica Catalogue (1776)
The first textbook on Newtonian science
The first colour newspaper advertisement
The first postcards and picture postcards in the UK

Scientific innovations
Logarithms: John Napier (1550-1617)
Popularising the decimal point: John Napier (1550-1617)
The Gregorian telescope: James Gregory (1638-1675)
The concept of latent heat: Joseph Black (1728-1799)
The pyroscope, atmometer and aethrioscope scientific instruments: Sir John Leslie (1766-1832)
Identifying the nucleus in living cells: Robert Browen (1773-1858)
Hypnosis: James Braid (1795-1860)
Colloid chemistry: Thomas Graham (1805-1869)
The kelvin SI unit of temperature: William Thompson, Lord Kelvin (1824-1907)
Devising the diagramatic system of representing chemical bonds: Alexander Crum Brown (1838-1922)
Criminal fingerprinting: Henry Faulds (1843-1930)
The noble gases: Sir William Ramsay (1852-1916)
Pioneering work on nutrition and poverty: John Boyd Orr (1880-1971)
The ultrasound scanner: Ian Donald (1910-1987)
Ferrocene synthetic substances: Peter Ludwig Pauson in 1955
The MRI body scanner: John Mallard in 1980
The first cloned mammal (Dolly the Sheep): The Roslin Institute research centre in 1996

Medical Innovations
Devising the cure for scurvy: James Lind (1716-1794)
Discovering quinine as the cure for malaria: George Cleghorn (1716-1794)
Pioneering the use of surgical anaesthesia: Sir James Young Simpson (1811-1870)
The hypodermic syringe: Alexander Wood (1817-1884)
Pioneering the use of antiseptics: Joseph Lister (1827-1912)
Identifying the mosquito as the carrier of malaria: Sir Ronald Ross (1857-1932)
Identifying the cause of brucellosis: Sir David Bruce (1855-1931)
Discovering the vaccine for typhoid fever: Sir William B. Leishman (1865-1926)
Discovering insulin: John J R Macleod (1876-1935) with others
Penicillin: Sir Alexander Fleming (1881-1955)
Discovering an effective tuberculosis treatment: Sir John Crofton in the 1950s
Primary creator of the artificial kidney (Professor Kenneth Lowe - Later Queen's physician in Scotland)
Developing the first beta-blocker drugs: Sir James W. Black in 1964
Glasgow Coma Scale: Graham Teasdale and Bryan J. Jennett (1974)

Household Innovations
The Dewar Flask: Sir James Dewar (1847-1932)
The piano with footpedals: John Broadwood (1732-1812)
The waterproof macintosh: Charles Macintosh (1766-1843)
The kaleidoscope: Sir David Brewster (1781-1868)
The modern lawnmower: Alexander Shanks (1801-1845)
The Lucifer friction match: Sir Isaac Holden (1807-1897){
Paraffin: James Young (1811-1883)
The fountain pen: Robert Thomson (1822-1873)
Cotton-reel thread: J & J Clark of Paisley
Lime Cordial: Lachlan Rose in 1867
Bovril beef extract: John Lawson Johnston in 1874
The life ring, or personal flotation device: Captain Ward in 1854

Weapons Innovations
The Ferguson rifle: Patrick Ferguson in 1770 or 1776
The Lee bolt system as used in the Lee-Metford and Lee-Enfield series rifles: James Paris Lee

Eric

Yeah, but all that work still can't make up for inflicting bagpipes on the world!
(or Haggis for that matter!)

to name a few

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Light signalling between ships:
The television: John Logie Baird (1888-1946)
Criminal fingerprinting: Henry Faulds (1843-1930)
The first cloned mammal (Dolly the Sheep):
The hypodermic syringe: Alexander Wood (1817-1884)
Penicillin: Sir Alexander Fleming (1881-1955)
Primary creator of the artificial kidney (Professor Kennet
The kaleidoscope: Sir David Brewster (1781-1868)
The modern lawnmower: Alexander Shanks (1801-1845)
The fountain pen: Robert Thomson (1822-1873)
The life ring, or personal flotation device: Captain Ward

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Ships would crash, we would read more, criminals would get away with alot more, we wouldnt have to worry about being cloned and killed, Junkies would have to find other ways to get high, we would all have the clap, Alot of people would be dead due to lack of kidneys, I probably would have never tried mind altering drugs, Everyone would have a sheep and my wife wouldn't yell at me for not mowing the lawn, Everything written would be in pencil and BILLIONS AND BILLIONS would have died from drowning. Thanks Scotland

OH SURE, Siggy! As IF there's NOT ENOUGH excuses out there for all the "amateur drunks" in our society to imbibe to excess each and every year, YOU have to supply yet ANOTHER one of these little "foreign traditions"!!! I mean, we ALREADY have this St.Paddy's Day thing goin' on here, to say nothing of this Cinco de Mayo thing, dude!!! What NEXT?! A St.Andrews Day, where everybody hoists a few rounds of their favorite 12 year old single-malt???




HEY! WAIT A MINUTE!!!

Maybe you ARE on to something here AFTERALL!!!

Cheers,
Dwight

The Lee bolt system as used in the Lee-Metford and Lee-Enfield series rifles: James Paris Lee

Didn't he live in Canada at that point?
He also helped to invent the 6mm Lee Navy rifle.

Couldn't remember if it was Blackburn or Bolton, and I wasn't going to look it up. Oh well, at least it looks like this year qualifying for the Champions League will be easier than last season when Arsenal edged out rivals Tottenham on the last day of the season. Although if Michel Platini gets his way, the Premiership will be down to 3 spots instead of 4.

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Michel Platini

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That little git can K M A.

We should claim 3rd spot....."SHOULD" being the key word there. Of cause, mathmatically we can still finish 2nd, especially if we beat Chelski at home. Though in reality i think 2nd is a bridge to far.

Hey...Why are we discussing all things SCOTTISH on a St Georges thread.

Strewth, next some one will bring up the French.

Now Now Dwight.

I can think of a few things the French have given us.

Grand Marnier for one.
Formula 1 Motor Racing (the first ever GP was in France)
French Kissing

So, not so bad aye?

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Typical of us Scots - kinda hijacked things a wee bitty

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HA HA...no worries there Eric. Looks like you are falling into the ba.com way of doing things.

Heck, next you will be saying things like. The red ones are faster

Just dont ever mention J**** Cakes.

Ok whats worth mentioning about the French. Well if you go way back, The Franks the last group to claim that regoin and where the name France (Francia) comes from where some "Bad a$$ mo fo's". After driving out the Visigoths.
Concurred the rest of the area,and united it under one king.
The first of the Maravingian line.Later it was a Frankish king who put together a real army and threw the Moorish invasion back into Spain. Later still Charles the Great(Charlemange) did a lot of "in the name of god" butchering.
expanded the French boarders and led an army over the Alps
to drive the Lombards out of Italy and save Catholic Rome.
The majority of the Knights Templar were French.
The North American tomahawk was inspised by the francisca
(Frankish throwing axe) brought to the new world by French settlers, And it is said that the practice of scalping ones ememies was also intorduced by the French.
French Amry and Naval forces played a key role in freeing
America from the yoke of British tiranny.

My question is what happened to these people,I mean did they lop the heads off anyone with any balls durring the French revolution or somthing?

"Run away! Run Away!" They learned it from the English.:)
King Arthur in the Quest for The Holy Grail. In fact I think the French launched cows at him or something.

If you want to go that far back,wasn't it William the b@stard from Normandy that won the the battle of Hastings,William being French,or was he.Normandy,why was it called Normandy,because it was full of Normans,from Norway.They took a wrong turn in the Atlantic ,thought they were going to Ireland and ended up in France and so we english or thought we were english are really french.Just think,the national language in england upto 1400 or somethig was french.So to put it in nutshell,1066 was William the norwegian fighting Harold from Denmark,it's all Scandinavian really fighting over a little island called......