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Problem in my cul-de-sac, need advice
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Alright, heres the story, there's a guy that has a very powerful enduro type bike, not sure what it is, but he comes down our road WIDE OPEN, turns around in the cul-de-sac, and by the time he comes back by the front of the house, he's doing like 60 mph on the back wheel. It is EXTREMELY loud and dangerous. I made a kind gesture to him to simply stop and talk about the children (I have 2, ages 8 and 14) that are always playing in and around the road, chasing balls and such...but he merely coasted toward me, turned around and popped the clutch, and took off in the other direction. He takes ALOT of joy in taunting me. I DO NOT like to be taunted, so BAMOM (wifey)calls the sheriff. They simply say theres nothing they can do, unless they actually see him...This has been going on for several weeks now, and the sheriff has been here twice.. He came down again today, and I picked up a 10 inch 2 by 6 and launched it toward him, barely missing his frame...Am I wrong in threatening him physically? Part of me thinks so, but boy was it fun watching him dodge that 2 by 6 at 60 mph!!! I told the cops to do whatever they need to do to keep from having to come out and scrape my little girls body out of the street, and again, say there's nothing they can do until they catch him.....We know where he lives, and the sheriff was out there yesterday, but again, he was out taunting me again today as if nothing was said....Any ideas?

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I wonder if a video of him doing it would help. Not sure, but might at least make him think about it. Get the lic plate number in it and a shot of his face if you can. Better yet, what is it they used ball barrings for .... back in the good ol days?


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Yeah, as tempting as it might be to clobber this guy, it's probably a bad idear. Although a piano wire strung low across the street might solve your problem... !

I do like the video idea. Keep us posted!


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No video camera, but just bought a new digital Minolta for the rally, might have to see how well it works,OR, my son's Red Ryder BB gun....

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I was a probation officer for 7 years and my experience with cops is, find the right one they will happily go talk to the guy just because they like the confrontation. Find out who the "super cop" is in your neighborhood. Since you live in a cul-de-sac, you have neighbors. I would suggest you ALL get together and go down and talk to the guy. And, although I usually follow the law, when it comes to my child, if there was any threat they would be hurt, something would mysteriuosly be happening to that guys bike.

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Trouble is, if you shoot him, you will go to jail for killing an a$$hole, and that would suck.

I do feel for ya dude i live on a back road and get punks like that on dirt bikes flying past the house day and night.
Cops either cant or wont do anything about it.


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I agree -get a video camera.

Are there enough other upset neighbors to complain to the cops to make it their problem? They get enough calls, they'll do something.

Are the neighbors cool enough to figure out a way to do a roadblock to keep him out of the culdesac?

Don't threaten him or get violent - that will just cause you more problems than its worth.


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a little soap and water on the street might take care of it. it helped me with a group of mini bikers they tend not to come back after they slip and fall.

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a little soap and water on the street might take care of it. it helped me with a group of mini bikers they tend not to come back after they slip and fall.




I like the way you think!


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No video camera, but just bought a new digital Minolta for the rally, might have to see how well it works,OR, my son's Red Ryder BB gun....





Crossman .177 cal pump pellet riffle would be better, he'd feel it.


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roundy77 #138810 03/08/2007 10:09 PM
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haha, I was going to suggest oil in the cul-de-sac, but soap and water sounds better!


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how long to the georgia rally , if you can hang on till then(using air rifle and/or soapy water suggestions, to kill the time and videoing it for legal/our amusement ) ,maybe he should be introduced to the triumph clan if you know what i mean

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b717doc #138812 03/08/2007 10:15 PM
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The video idea is good. I'd talk to a lawyer before you loose it. So far he is speeding, driving recklessly and disturbing the peace. So far you have committed assault with intent. Don't let him get to you. This might be a instance for a restraining order on him, see a lawyer if the cops won't respond.

Plan B is to organise your neighbors into a mob and deal with him, remember there is safty in numbers.


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b717doc #138813 03/08/2007 10:18 PM
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Thin cable strung between two mailbox posts entering the cul-de-sac....

Good luck, keep us posted.


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Plan B is to organise your neighbors into a mob and deal with him, remember there is safty in numbers.




Yep, a group of Dads out to be able to stop him from being an a##hat.

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You need to get a few of the neighbors together & when he makes his turn-around eveyone runs & lets him know that sh*t isn't going to happen anymore...that should give him a pretty good scare. He probably doesn't have kids so won't understand why you are pi*sed off so be sure to let him know if he hits a someones kid he will die.


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The idea of causing physical harm to this numb sckull may make you feel good about yourself but it will also most likely get you into trouble with the law. Best avoid that plan, however good it may sound.

Best plan is to try and get all of the people in your cul-de-sac to get involved. That and try to find a really good police officer who is open to a bit of "extra" duties.

Wish you luck man, keep us posted.


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Mark, the camera or video recorder is a good idea. But what about a video phone? You could call the police and say "see this is the idiot I've been trying to tell you about." Is this an adult or a teenager? I would agree with the others here and stay within the law and nail him that way.. better example for the kids also.


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How about having your kids leave a few old toys out in the street (Skate boarde, roller skates, golf balls) you get the Idea.


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Mark,
Take the advise and keep your cool. When I was a kid (2 light years ago), we had a neighborhood leadfoot with no regard for others and a deap desire to plss off anyone he could. May dad made several gallant attempts to talk to the kid - each ending with the jackass getting the upper hand. On one occassion, my dad grabbed the kid through the car window and got spun to his feet as the bass turd sped off. On each occassion, the cops were called and ol' Dad got the same response as you. Several months passed and one day our dog was lose when he came by on a new Harley. The dog raced through the yard, as dogs are prone to do, and took a flying leap at the dude. Like a lion on a fawn, he gets ripped of his ride and over an embankment. He and the dog were unhurt. The bike proceeded down the road as if untouched and like slow motion until it hit the guard rails (those old cable type) and shreaded one side into a tangled mess. You might say he got his - But the irony is that he files charges indicating my dad was harassing him and claiming the dog was attacking on command - and my dad buys his first Harley - Only it was for the jerk. So, do it the safe way and stay on the cops - not the jerk. They'll get tired of you bugging them and do whatever it takes to get you off their back. But, distance yourself from the kid as much as you can.


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There's a thing called a citizen's arrest. Get witnesses to his actions, a video would also help. Call the police, or better yet, talk to one who patrols your area, and ask him/her to come out and assist to make sure you do it right. The actions are misdemeanors, so that's why the officer must witness it to make an arrest. You, as a witness can do the same. Just be sure the police are present.
There's also civil action, talk to a lawyer. Many give a free consultation.


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Don't be stupid about it.

I already have one friend from Georgia doing time, because of retaliation.

The video is probably a decent idea. If you have a black & white car parked on your street, he'll never show up.

Definitely would be in your best interest if several more of your neighbors went on record complaining.

Perhaps a timely visit with an unmarked car could put an end to it.

In court anything you do physically will be considered worse than anything he has done.

Good luck!

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Combine a few of the ideas.

Get the neighbors involved, they are all probably pissed.

Chances are one of them has a video camera!

Rent a camera?

Don't hit the guy, if you do, there is physical proof YOU did something, and still no proof he did. THAT is why you would get in trouble and not him. Avoid that!!


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As suggested, don't do anything that could injure the guy. You will be libel. You really do need to video the guy doing "his thing". Also, get statements from other residents in the cul-de-sac and you will get results from the police.

Another sure fire cure - get the residents to agree to speed bumps - which will stop it for sure. Only trouble is you'll have to go over them as well.


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I dont agree with piano wire and soap.. You said you know where he lives, knock on the door and talk with him... if he is an a$$hole, knock the snot out of him... I'm guessing the cops will have the same response, if I don't see it there is nothing I can do

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Stay as far from him as possible! These people will lie and get you in trouble. Use the video and keep on the police good side and recruit the neighbors to complain.
Long story, too long for here, but my girlfriends teenage daughter had a neighbor teen that didn't get along with her. My girlfriend drove down the street, watched the girl continue walking the opposite way, 1/2 hour later got a call to go to police station, we went, she was arrested for running over the girl's foot! This girl planned the "incident"as far as even writing down the plate number ahead of time. We had to go to court, car insurance even paid her ambulance ride. This girl put my girlfriend through a lot of trouble and embarassment. My point is, don't underestimate how much of an a''hole this person could be.
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GEEEESH! I had no idea how many attorneys we had here.


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Talk to a bunch of your neighbours, aks them if they would sign a complaint with you, or back you up if you file one and need to be supported when the police come to investigate. Dont go physical, nor verbal, you never know when someone may act out at you with a gun or whatever. He seems to havea reckless disregard, that may indicate an instability that could enjoy the escalation. Also, as you tke this further, remember, he will know who did this to him, and there isnt anything that says he wont look for ways to retaliate.


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I through hammer at the clown who was blasting down my street on a 500cc quad. I asked him nice. Told him that there were 11 6 year old kids playing outside. He ignored me. The hammer hit the front right tire. He has not done it since.

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Everyone is going about this all wrong. You can't assault or injure him. Peer pressure won't work. The cops are never around when you need them. The answer is clear.

Pull your mufflers off the bike and at 3am rev it up in front of his house. Warn your (non-asshat) neighbors first so they can wear earplugs and so they won't call the cops themselves. Do it every night for a week. Heck, pull your license plate too so he can't photograph it. Then propose a detante.

You may not want to use this exact method, but you have to find out what annoys him and do it mercilessly. This is war. The first person to get the other to do something illegal (and provable), or quit, wins.


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Stand in the middle of the street.

My other suggestions would be illegal.


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I'm really shocked @ how many people here have no balls. The a-hole is putting chindren @ risk. The cops have already been out there & have done nothing. The cops aren't always going to be around so sometimes you have to do your own police work. If he hurts or kills a kid it will be too late.


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too true. The ones doing the physical action against the dorky kid would end up in jail.

It'd be nice though to just call in an AC-130 gunship and hit him with a few rounds ....:)


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Folks, no one needs to be a vigilante. The consequences are not worth the gain of hurting this idiot. Video tapes will help...but...even better...call the local TV station. Many are looking for stories. They will park and wait and air it on TV. The police will be forced to investigate. Problem solved.
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I say if he seems to do it at the same time in the evening or whatever, go and buy some carpet taks and sling a few down on the road, remembering to sweep them up afterwards


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I am so glad I live in a small town in the south. We fix our own problems. If it gets too nasty we call the cops after & they can "clean it up".


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does he leave that bike out side? it could spontaniously combust some night?

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Its not a question of nerve or manhood, its a question of law, and until he apprehended breaking it, he hasnt done anything yet. File a complaint, that gets the attention on him. To threaten or physically assault is breaking the law to enforce it, a ends justifies the means method, and isnt sensible, nor credible.


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