I found some Honda shocks and modified them to fit. I cut aproximately 3 coils out and presto! around 3 1/2 inches. Plus I found a low profile seat. I have been seriously considering the front end lower kit but have not gotten around to it. The longer I have it apart the less I can ride it. Ya know? I have seen some shocks in custom chrome and places like that that have shorter shocks if you don't want to modify. I measured around 11" from mount to mount to get it as low as mine.