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Well most of the time I wear one.Ct has no helmet laws for adults, But every now and then, depending on where I'm going I'll go bucketless, Yeah I know its stupid, but rideing without a helmet realy is such a different feel,
And if i ride any distance without the helmet, I actually have to force myself to put one on.Cant explain it guess i just dig bugs hitting me in the forhead.
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Jacket with armor, boots, gloves, and full face lid, everytime I fire it up for the street. Like Benny, my choice....my melon. I am real partial to my melon and keeping it in one piece.;)
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Iowa has no law requiring helmet use but I can count on the fingers of one hand how many times I've ridden without one in the last 20 years. Always long pants and over the ankle shoes, although I do ride with just an Aloha or T-shirt rather than a jacket sometimes when it is hot. Although, after seeing those pictures of the "Road Rash Girl" last year, I've taken to gearing up much more often. Since this is the only melon and set of skin I have I've decided to protect it a bit better.
On the other hand, as a libertarian leaning conservative, I don't think the state has the moral or constitutional authority to require helmet use. Like the ABATE guys say "Let those who ride decide." Just don't make me responsible for their decisions.
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On a related topic, our newly elected Democrat legislature voted to raise cigarette taxes by a dollar a pack and raise taxes on my cigars too. Our newly elected Democrat Governor is practically peeing himself in eagerness to sign the bill. I'll be buying my cigars over the internet and I hope the local Indian tribe starts selling smokes and the border county smokers go to other states to buy cigarettes. Greedy, busybody, nanny state b@stards!
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Well most of the time I wear one.Ct has no helmet laws for adults, But every now and then, depending on where I'm going I'll go bucketless, Yeah I know its stupid, but rideing without a helmet realy is such a different feel,
And if i ride any distance without the helmet, I actually have to force myself to put one on.Cant explain it guess i just dig bugs hitting me in the forhead.
I agree, Its hard too put one on. like you I force myself. Although I never wear shorts and usually wear good set of steel toe boots. Likely you'll see me with my leather but when its too ****** hot I tend to shed the clothing. Long rides its hard not to wear a full face, purely for the element factor.
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some of them have left to join the conservative think tanks because they are the only place that will welcome researchers who do not toe the PC party line.
I think you lost me there. Comparing the nation's research universities to think tanks is comparing apples to oranges. The think tanks don't "do" any hard science. Their research is in public policy. They concern themselves with politics, not science. Why would geochemists, climatologists, or paleobiologists who research climate change work for a think tank? There are no labs there for them to work in. What's even more puzzling is why would anyone throw paint at them?
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We all like to think of ourselves as rugged individualists. But when push comes to shove most of us are sheep who do what we are told. Worst of all, a lot of us become unpaid agents of whoever is controlling the agenda by enforcing the current dogma on the few rugged individualists who actually exist.
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On a related topic, our newly elected Democrat legislature voted to raise cigarette taxes by a dollar a pack and raise taxes on my cigars too. Our newly elected Democrat Governor is practically peeing himself in eagerness to sign the bill. I'll be buying my cigars over the internet and I hope the local Indian tribe starts selling smokes and the border county smokers go to other states to buy cigarettes. Greedy, busybody, nanny state [Email]b@stards![/Email]
Be carful about this not too long ago Ct authorities sent huge tax bills to people they found out where buying smokes on line.
And before that the state cops practically laid siege to a small Indain tribe that was selling untaxed ciggerettes to non tribal memebers.
Yep those of you out there that swept in Democrats, without thinking what that was going to mean to you wallets, better get ready,,, bend over here come the liberals.
I just cant wait to see what our new congress does to us.
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Be careful about this not too long ago Ct authorities sent huge tax bills to people they found out where buying smokes on line.
Never one to avoid a good fight, I'd tell them to "KMA, let's go to court and make a circus out it." I'm pissed enough to do it right now.
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And before that the state cops practically laid siege to a small Indian tribe that was selling untaxed cigarettes to non tribal members.
What? and deny sustenance to the poor downtrodden Indians? They already get millions tax free from gambling. Who could deny them cigarette money too?
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not all the tribes have casinos, what the cops did was stop everycar going on or off the res.And basically harass the crap out of them. Not blaming the cops here. It was done on the Governors orders.
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not all the tribes have casinos, what the cops did was stop everycar going on or off the res.And basically harass the crap out of them. Not blaming the cops here. It was done on the Governors orders.
Some politicians think of all money as their own, they just allow you to keep some of it. On the other hand, if they keep getting elected the people have only themselves to blame.
We all like to think of ourselves as rugged individualists. But when push comes to shove most of us are sheep who do what we are told. Worst of all, a lot of us become unpaid agents of whoever is controlling the agenda by enforcing the current dogma on the few rugged individualists who actually exist.
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It was done on the Governors orders.
Funny how all the harassment stopped once the state got a cut of the gambling action, which, without a lot of research, seems pretty close to illegal if we're talking about a state levied tax upon a sovereign nation.  Then the state spin doctors had the b&lls to tell us "The money will go to education."
Mmm Hmmm - sure it will.
I can't see how that CT casino deal was any different than when organized crime does a shakedown. And to beat that, had organized crime done the extortion deal at the casino, they wouldn't demand a paper trail, reports, permits, and compliance audits like the state of CT surely must.
I had to laugh when I read that the CT revenuers rolled up to the NY Seneca reservation, and demanded the list of CT cigarette customers buying tax free cigarettes. The Senecas told them to go pound sand. I love it. Then a few of our elected geniuses in Washington figured it would be a good idea to introduce a bill to demand by law that UPS & Fedex drivers collect cigarette taxes upon delivery. I kid you not.
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Government and organized crime have a lot in common. That's why the less you can have of either the better off you are. As a former FedEx driver I can tell you that making them collect taxes would be difficult. How do you know what's in the package? How much is the tax? What if they don't have the money? What if they are not home? What if the driver "forgets?"
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Government and organized crime have a lot in common.
Except the criminals are usually more organized 
Making drivers collect is just funny. Like you said how would they know what is in it? Isn't it somewhat illegal to know what is in it other than knowing what is NOT in it? I have to fill out condition reports to ship stuff sometimes for work, ya know "this does NOT contain XYZ". Plus, I know some mail men and FedEx guys, and I know some folks who order smokes from the web, A: I can't imagine these people caring or taking the time to collect, and B: I can't imagine the recipients even bothering to entertain the conversation
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I think the state missed the boat with the indain casinos,
Instead of trying to fight them on it, Should have tried to make a deal right from the start for "A piece of the action"
Maybe even offered to help out money wise for a part ownership, should have asked themselves "What would Gambino do?"
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Too often the biggest difference between the Mob and the government is that the Mob doesn't have badges and doesn't pretend to be looking after anyone other than themselves. The Iowa nannystaters just increased the cigarette tax from 36 cents to $1.36. For our own good of course. All other tobacco taxes went up too. Just what we need, politicians and bureaucrats controlling our personal choices. When and where (if) does it stop? Once the premise is accepted that they know better then we do I wonder what the limit may be.
C. S. Lewis said it best:
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
We all like to think of ourselves as rugged individualists. But when push comes to shove most of us are sheep who do what we are told. Worst of all, a lot of us become unpaid agents of whoever is controlling the agenda by enforcing the current dogma on the few rugged individualists who actually exist.
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Yep I'd rather be oppressed by Heathens than Puritans.
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The second hand smoke thing weather it's bad for others or not it's very unpleasant for a nonsmoker.It can ruin a meal having to breathe that crap when you are eating. I also can't believe it's harmless. Nonsmokers don't inflict anything on the smoker but the smoker inflicts thier bad habbit on the nonsmoker. I am all for smoking bans in resturants I don't think it needs to be banned in bars as most people would expect it there and can choose not to go in and it is pretty much an adult only inviornment.
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But is it the job of bureaucrats and politicians to tell the owner of an establishment whether or not to allow smoking? If the owner decides to ban smoking, or anything else, that is his business because, well, it's his business. When the government does it it’s petty tyranny.
We all like to think of ourselves as rugged individualists. But when push comes to shove most of us are sheep who do what we are told. Worst of all, a lot of us become unpaid agents of whoever is controlling the agenda by enforcing the current dogma on the few rugged individualists who actually exist.
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Never thought of it that way, interesting POV.
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Before our recent smoking ban in all bars that serve food except in the casinos (guess which big business was behind that one), there were many smoke free (voluntary) restaurants that never seemed to be lacking customers.
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Nonsmokers don't inflict anything on the smoker but the smoker inflicts thier bad habbit on the nonsmoker.
I have to dissagree here Dog, Non-smokers tend to inflict their selfrighteous opinons on smokers.
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No you misunderstand I am not for legilateing it just saying I see the reasoning. As far as selfrighteous opinions don't like it don't rear it or listen to it but it has done no physical hard while as the second hand smake may have. As a nonsmoker they could ban it in the whole country as far as I'm concerned same for drinking. But I don't think that is what should be. I like the idea of nonsmoking resuraunts. Having a smoking section in a resturaunt is like having a peeing section in a public pool and does about as much good.
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Having a smoking section in a resturaunt is like having a peeing section in a public pool and does about as much good.
The answer is obvious, don't go into pools with peeing sections. 
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They already have entirely separate peeing pools, they're call "kiddie pools". If pee-ers want to pee in public pools, they should be restricted to those pools as the other patrons in the pool wouldn't mind.
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They already have entirely separate peeing pools, they're call "kiddie pools". If pee-ers want to pee in public pools, they should be restricted to those pools as the other patrons in the pool wouldn't mind.
On the other hand, if you knowingly enter a peeing pool, does it make sense to demand it become a non peeing pool just because you want to enter it?
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The key phrase is "knowingly enter a peeing pool". That's why I think there should be separate pools for pee-ers. I wouldn't enter a kiddie pool and demand they stop peeing. I'm all for separate pools - not just peeing sections.
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Cell phones is another one!! I believe unless it's some kind of emergency like maybe you kid or wife is gonna have a baby any sec. or something. Cell phones should be shut off at the door of a resturaunt or put on vibrate and if it does vibrate leave the area to answer.Wendy and I both personally do that.Common curtosy.
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Cell phones is another one!! I believe unless it's some kind of emergency like maybe you kid or wife is gonna have a baby any sec. or something. Cell phones should be shut off at the door of a resturaunt or put on vibrate and if it does vibrate leave the area to answer.Wendy and I both personally do that.Common cutosy.
On Easter Sunday one of the guys passing the communion trays had his cell phone go off during that part of the service. He turned bright red and dozens of people hurried to turn off their phones so it didn't happen to them 
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My phone ran out of batteries in church sunday. I had it on silent, but it made a little jungle anyway! Luckily it was pretty quiet and only a couple people heard it.
There was also a little kid who went "YAY!" after every song, cause she knew it was time to applaud! SOOOO cute. Got a good chuckle from everyone.
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My cell phone sleeps in the glove compartment of my truck most of time. I take it out at lunch time to check for messages. Then I check again before I start drive home.
When it's not in the glove box it sleeps in my panniers.
I wake it up if I stop some place.
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I got into the habbit of keeping mine on me when it was my only phone (no house phone) after college. Now, with my job, I need it on me all the time too, so it's a habbit. Plus, I am scared of forgetting it at my parents' house somewhere! I leave it in the house sometimes on weekends or whatever, but I feel weird without it!
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mine is with me all the time due to my towing co. but not when I am out in a public place where it's inappropriate.
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My cell phone is my primary business number. I literally make my living over my cell phone. I'll put it on vibrate but I almost never turn it off. In church, at a movie theater, a funeral, a nice restaurant for supper probably off, especially in the evening or on weekends. At lunch including most restaurants, shopping, barber shop, etc, especially during business hours that sucker is on. I try to be considerate. I don’t talk loudly, or usually very long, but I am not going to miss a deal that may net me thousands of dollars out of concern that someone may get their panties in a twist over it.
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Yeah I try not to be obnoxious, I figure that's a good rule of thumb. The overly loud foul mouthed stuff is just wrong tho! One time I was on the ferry to CT. Smallish cabin... There was one guy talking on SPEAKERPHONE (I HATE speakerphone) to his wife, and they were swearing to eachother, not AT eachother, but ya know using the language. Kids around.. who cares?! Same boat, there was another guy who was nice enough to step outside the door onto the deck, but the door was propped open, and he was facing the door and now yelling cause the wind noise was up. So it was louder in the cabin than it would have been had he just kept to himself in a corner...
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I think any public eatery even as far down the scale a Bking or McDs it's just the rudest thing you can do is talk on the phone for any reason. I too need mine for business a call can range anywhere for $60 to $3,000 depending on what the deal is, I tow and there are times I get a vehicle that has to be removed from somewhere and I remove it. I then turn around and sell it for a couple grand. I still show enough class to leave the dining area to answer and talk on my cell.The ring would not have been audible , would have been on vibrate too.
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I think as long as you are not talking louder than you would in a conversation, a quick answer is ok. Might be rude to whomever you are with at the time, but at least you are probably not disturbing the people around you anymore than you would by just talking.
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agreed. I was more refering to those people who walk in either already talking on it or get a call shortly after and talk all the way through the meal and leave still talking.
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