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Can some one point me to where i could get a list of US States that do not have mandatory helmet laws? I know in Ct.
"The Consttitution State" and Hew Hampshire "Live free or Die" You still have a choise.
Due to some developements in my place of employment (company bought out by one of the big boys). My job may go the way of the dinosaurs shortly. Wife and I decided if that happens we are going to sell and move.
Also Canadian laws..because if "Madam Hillary" gets elected I'm leaveing the country.
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A word to the wise is not necessary. It is the stupid ones who need the advice.
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I noticed there are only 4 states without any helmet laws at all. Iowa, Illinois, Colorado and New Hampshire. I like the fact that some states only have helmet laws for minors which I think is a good thing. IMHO, people should decide if they want to wear a helmet. I don't like laws that protect people from themselves.
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It's too bad there are a bunch of people who ruin it for the rest of us! Speed limits, seat belt laws, etc, would all be needless if people didn't F themselves up and then blame it on no rules! Like the lady who burned herself on hot coffee in the car. Now EVERY coffee container says "caution, hot". No kidding!
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Any law designed to protect me from myself SUCKS.
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I agree with you, but watch out. On another motorcycle forum I mentioned that I thought that helmet laws sucked. I thought they were going to ban me from the site. I had never been called a idiot in so many different ways! 
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Your link for helmet laws is in error ofr Florida. Here is another link for current motorcycle helmet laws. Tom
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I also heard that Florida will be issuing a different color license plate for all riders 21 years old and younger. Thus making it easier for the police to identify helmet law violations and write more tickets.
Tom
Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
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I noticed there are only 4 states without any helmet laws at all. Iowa, Illinois, Colorado and New Hampshire. I like the fact that some states only have helmet laws for minors which I think is a good thing. IMHO, people should decide if they want to wear a helmet. I don't like laws that protect people from themselves.
Once you realize that you belong to the government and they are just trying to care for you it all makes sense. We are all too stupid to make decisions for ourselves and need smarter people to make them for us. Smoking, seatbelts and helmets are issues that we are simply not capable of dealing with.
We all like to think of ourselves as rugged individualists. But when push comes to shove most of us are sheep who do what we are told. Worst of all, a lot of us become unpaid agents of whoever is controlling the agenda by enforcing the current dogma on the few rugged individualists who actually exist.
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I notice that some states exempt riders from wearing a lid if they range from around 18 or older and have either proof of medical insurance or proof of taking the MSF training course...
I wonder ..do LEO in those states spend much time pulling adult riders over just to see if they have this proof on their person?
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Once you realize that you belong to the government and they are just trying to care for you it all makes sense. We are all too stupid to make decisions for ourselves and need smarter people to make them for us. Smoking, seatbelts and helmets are issues that we are simply not capable of dealing with.
Larry you may be joking here (at least I hope you are).
But I do now somone who actually believes in what you
say here. Kinda pathetic really, but he has come out with statments pretty much saying that the "Folks in da gubment are smarter than us, so we should just do like they say, and not complain all da time"
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Doesn't everyone have an identification bar code tattoo under their scrotum?
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not everyone has scrotums.
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not everyone has scrotums.
I was trying to work something in there, but I drew a blank.
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I noticed there are only 4 states without any helmet laws at all. Iowa, Illinois, Colorado and New Hampshire. I like the fact that some states only have helmet laws for minors which I think is a good thing. IMHO, people should decide if they want to wear a helmet. I don't like laws that protect people from themselves.
One of the problems with legeslators trying to make motorcycling or driving foolproof is that nature is constantly breeding better fools.
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People SHOULD be able to make up their own minds as to helmet use. Within that is the strong implication that it's that person's DECISION and they should be left alone with that decision.
Helmet use is a personal choice and should be respected.
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not everyone has scrotums.
LOL. Aint that the friggin truth. Seems we have more and more eunuchs runnin around.
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KY laws are kinda messed up. The passenger MUST weat a helmet but they don't enforce it until they stop you for something else.
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You have no choice in the UK, you have to wear it, bit of a s@d in the summer, but I support it after smashing up badly in the 70s and splitting one in half. I have a Lazer with a flip front and you can even get a fine for having the front up while riding 
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I have a Lazer with a flip front and you can even get a fine for having the front up while riding
How does that work? As far as I know, you do not have to have eye protection!
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People SHOULD be able to make up their own minds as to helmet use. Within that is the strong implication that it's that person's DECISION and they should be left alone with that decision.
Helmet use is a personal choice and should be respected.
SteveB
The whole idea is to get people to become increasingly dependent on the government to make decisions for them. Then, when they say, "We are going to put a 2 way viewscreen in every room of your home for your own protection", there will be little opposition.
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I have a Lazer with a flip front and you can even get a fine for having the front up while riding
How does that work? As far as I know, you do not have to have eye protection!
Apparemtly the helmet is safety tested with the front closed and should not be used with it open
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In CT. we don't have to wear a helmet on a bike but have to wear a seatbelt in a car. I have to question the logic when going through a police checkpoint looking for seatbelts while on my bike. In a steel cage I need a seatbelt, on two wheels no seatbelt(obviously) and no helmet. BTW I believe it should be my choise(seatbelt and helmet) though I don't dispute the safety advantages of both.
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I notice more and more riders wearing buckets in states where they don' require it. Safety is catching on.
Now where did I put that helmet, saw it a few months ago.
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Even if it is not so much that safety is catching on, it is nice to see people making a choice and not necesarily going lidless cause they think it's cool!
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What site was that Leonard?
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yep even starting to see the hardly boys in Helmetless Ct starting to wear skull buckets, guess coolness changes with the times.
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I've been ticketed for speeding (truck), not wearing a seatbelt (truck) and not wearing eye protection (but wearing the helmet) on a GL1200 with its billboard sized windshield. I was clearly guilty, but of the 3 tickets, the speeding ticket was the least expensive fine.
So... endangering the lives of others by speeding down the highway carries less of a penalty than endangering myself by not wearing the seatbelt or eye protection. Go figure.
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The times they are a changin!
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that is where I stand, I can back up laws pertaining to actions that affect the rest of the population but I think they cross the line with laws that only affect my personal safety like helmets and seatbelts.
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They start with the humanitarian impulse of caring for you if you get injured but that costs money so they must quickly move to the socialist method of having someone else pay for their generosity. Once they have assumed the power to take money from others to care for you it’s only natural they will get the totalitarian impulse to control your life so as to keep the costs down. If you expect politicians and bureaucrats to act as surrogate parents and take care of your needs you shouldn’t be too surprised when they also act as surrogate parents to control your life.
We all like to think of ourselves as rugged individualists. But when push comes to shove most of us are sheep who do what we are told. Worst of all, a lot of us become unpaid agents of whoever is controlling the agenda by enforcing the current dogma on the few rugged individualists who actually exist.
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Why is it that those who want to control our lives ( helmet laws, seatbelts, smoking, transfats, etc ) and love use high tax rates to facilitate their ends, seem to have accumulated their wealth already and arent concerned about paying high taxes ( taxes hit those who make more, no those who have it already ).
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Why is it that those who want to control our lives ( helmet laws, seatbelts, smoking, transfats, etc ) and love use high tax rates to facilitate their ends, seem to have accumulated their wealth already and arent concerned about paying high taxes ( taxes hit those who make more, no those who have it already ).
The worst of them no longer pay any taxes due to accounting tricks and tax shelters that are not available to the majority of us. There are lots of examples but my post would get deleted if I went any further with this 
We all like to think of ourselves as rugged individualists. But when push comes to shove most of us are sheep who do what we are told. Worst of all, a lot of us become unpaid agents of whoever is controlling the agenda by enforcing the current dogma on the few rugged individualists who actually exist.
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smoking effects those around us unlike helmets or seatbelts Frank
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Everyone should have the right to not wear a helmet if they so choose as long as they sign a waiver that allows their state to refuse them "ward of the state" status should they end up a vegetable due to head injury and have no means of paying for their medical care. If riders want to be "FREE" and ride helmet-less then they should expect taxpayers to be "FREE" from the financial burden of caring for them when they end up as artichokes (IMHO  ).
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I'd rather pay NY state tax dollars for "Artichoke" care than Ms. Clintons salary or housing murderers on Rikers Island (Death penalty rescinded in NY - 2004). Luckily I don't live in NY.
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I'd rather pay NY state tax dollars
No need to. You can donate here:
http://www.bianys.org/
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