I like spokes but not tubes. I like the SM alloys but not sure about the new wheels on either, guess I would have to see them in person. Prefer the blacked out motor, though I do like black and crome together. The seats for the rider are the same as far as I am concerned. After putting some milage on both I definately prefer the dual discs up front. The ergos of the speedy fit me better, though that is easily changed. I so far prefer the 790cc, though I have not done many miles on an 865. Of course there is no comparison with the tires. Even though I have an SM I agree they should have kept the spokes on the BA.