I agree with you Mark. I thought they were riding the way most guys would like to ride but haven't the balls to do it. I think there are a few guys on this site that do ride that way. In fact I know there are because I have seen them. Maybe not quite as fast as these guys, but only because our bikes are limited as to how far you can lean them over. Just a little mistake at the end. And I don't think they came that close to the bicycle riders either. Some of us came just as close and maybe closer in Georgia this past summer.