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Need schooling on E-Z brackets
#115402 11/30/2006 5:54 PM
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I've never had a bike with bags, and the throw overs that came with the bike aren't very good.

If I understand the system correctly, you buy which ever bags you want, and buy the brackets separately and affix the bags to the brackets. The brackets are "mounting post specific" depending on the centers of your fender bolts, and hook on the mounting posts attached to your bike. If I have that right, all I need to do is buy all the stuff and bolt it on.

Now for the real question......... I'm cheap........ and need to know what other bikes, if any, cross over to our bikes so I can shop for used on ebay? I don't mind doing some modifications to make it work out if it saves me a decent amount. Are all leather bags that aren't throw overs OK to use with brackets? Thanks for the help. Bob


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KANSASBOB #115403 11/30/2006 6:06 PM
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If I understand, you want to know if any other brackets work? Any bags work cause you need to poke holes in the bags to bolt them to the EZ brackets, but you probably need to get the ones for our bikes because there are sort of keyhole slots in them to slip over the posts which correspond to the fender support bolts. Anyway, get whatever bags ya want, and get the brackets. Once you get em, let us know cause almost everyone has reinforced their bags.


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bennybmn #115404 11/30/2006 6:43 PM
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I used masonite (peg board without the holes) cut to the shape of my bags as reinforcement.

It's really nice to be able to take the bags off with ease when I feel like tinkering.


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bradleyd #115405 11/30/2006 7:30 PM
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i used some plexi cut to fit. seems to be holding up well so far

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KANSASBOB #115406 11/30/2006 7:53 PM
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Buy your EZ Brackets from Brent; he's got them as cheap as anybody else and he'll send them with posts to fit your bike perfectly (whether or not you have a sissybar/luggage rack).

I got my EZ Brackets from him and couldn't be happier. Well, maybe I could be happier if he gave them to me for free...

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Donnie_Fair #115407 11/30/2006 8:16 PM
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Kansas, good luck. The EZ Brackets work great. Be sure to reinforce the bags, whatever kind you get.


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Speedmaster05 #115408 11/30/2006 9:06 PM
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I've been meaning to post this -- If by chance anyone is using the Triumph sissy bar with EZ brackets, they might want to increase the length of the EZ bracket socket head bolts to 70 or 75 mm long. (The thread setup is 8 x 1.25) The sissy bar brackets significantly increase the distance from the bike side of the EZ bracket's mounting pins to the fender's threaded boss. There's a whole lot of stress going on between both the weight of the bags and the possible push of a pillion rider or wind load against backrest to have it all on two or three threads per bolt. Then mix in some road spray and subsequent corrosion on the mostly exposed threads within the bosses...

With the sissy bar, bolts shorter than 70 or 75 mm are likely threaded into the fender by only a few threads. I learned this lesson the hard way, and lost a half day of travel getting it fixed. If anyone has concerns of this, try reaching into the fender bosses with a toothpick or seal pick, and see how much open thread you have. IMO, there should be little or no open thread area inside the fender bosses, as there isn't any excess depth of thread in there to begin with. The total amount of thread depth in the bosses is around 1/4".

The bad news is, I believe you'll find like I did that most hardware stores don't stock 8 X 1.25 X 70 or 75 mm socket head bolts. If per chance they do, beware of low quality imports.

These folks seem to have the right stuff -
http://www.boltdepot.com/product.aspx?cc=25&cs=132&cm=77&cd=1607
as do these folks, in stainless
http://www.mmsacc-stainless.com/metric/html/metric_allen.html

Sample of a socket head bolt:

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Bucky #115409 11/30/2006 10:29 PM
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I had a helluva time finding a bolt for the fender support just in FRONT of the ez brackets that I am using for my bolt lock. The thread pitch is in between fine and coarse...


Benny Black & Silver '02 Too many mods to list Not enough miles ridden
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KANSASBOB #115410 11/30/2006 11:38 PM
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I got both my bags and brackets from
http://www.leatherneckjim.com/
Some of his bags are from Auburn leather, they make great stuff... have a set of their leather bags I bought from Leatherneck Jim's about 3 years ago for my Harley, no problems with them at all. I have a set of their fake leather ones on the Triumph, I can tell the differnce, but they'll do ok, they were a couple hundred $$ cheaper. Both sets have the same plastic backing, no problems.
When I ordered the EZbrackets for my Speedy, they came with longer bolts.
Mary


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bennybmn #115411 12/01/2006 8:07 AM
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Quote:

I had a helluva time finding a bolt for the fender support just in FRONT of the ez brackets that I am using for my bolt lock. The thread pitch is in between fine and coarse...




I don't know if this has anything to do with that -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Standard_Whitworth

I recall hearing of some British military machinery thread pitches as well, but I don't know much about it.

A machinist buddy used to work on Rolls Royce restorations. He claims there would be 3 or 4 different types of fasteners and thread pitches, all on the same car, which I suppose is akin to modern machinery makers mixing metric and US fasteners. Gotta keep those tool sales going.

I was wondering about the practice of using stepped fasteners on our bikes. For instance, in some locations, the nut will fit a 10 mm wrench, and the bolt will fit an 11 mm wrench or like that - a very considerate method since it allows one to carry along only one set of wrenches instead of two. (I carry two sets anyway, but I also carry a 12 volt compressor, tire plugs, fixaflat, and 20 or 30 other tools & gee gaws, so I'm weird like that.)

Anyway, my question is, is there a name for the practice of using the stepped fasteners? I never saw this until I bought this used Speedmaster.

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Bucky #115412 12/01/2006 11:08 AM
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Not sure if there is a name for it, but on normal SAE bolts, are the nuts usually the same size as the bolt head?


Benny Black & Silver '02 Too many mods to list Not enough miles ridden
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bennybmn #115413 12/09/2006 8:03 AM
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I'm most familiar with SAE nuts and bolts needing the same sized wrench. I hadn't seen otherwise until I bought the Triumph. I first saw it on the Triumph OEM sissy bar backrest bolts.

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Bucky #115414 12/11/2006 10:51 PM
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First time I noticed was the rear axle. Kinda nice considering they are large! I could easily scrounge up two 12mm sockets, one deep, one standard, or a 12 pt, but I only have 1 24mm


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