To all,

No one is going anywhere, even if I have to drag you back here, kicking and screaming!

And this thread will not be locked. Maybe if we all get it off our collective chests, we can get back to discussing important stuff like beer, stoopid yoots , Gina's new bike, corny/good/excellent jokes, beer, football, bad drivers, riding, and most importantly, beer!

Paula, Jack, don't lose any sleep. Youse are OK in my book.

This happens every year about this time. All you old timers know this, right? But dang, if it's this crispy in November, I can't wait until February!


Let's all go find our happy places, take some deep breaths, and move on.

Please?


"Never underestimate the power of human stupidity" - Robert Heinlein