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So I've decided to get nice leather saddle bags instead of hard bags. I've got my eye on a set of Leatherworks bags right now. Two questions: I know the #112's Leatherworks model 112 will fit either on brackets or as throwovers, but I think I want the bigger #120's Leatherworks model 120 that will only work as a throwover. What does the collected wisdom say about throwovers with a yoke (& zippers?) vs using Easy Brackets? If I go the throwover route what kind of brackets do I need to use under the bags for support?
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I bought my bike with 900 miles on it. Previous owner had Triumph throwover bags. The top of the rear fender is scuffed from them. I bought a set of bags and cut yoke off, reinforced backs and bolted them solidly. Takes 10 minutes or so to remove them.
Triumph saddlebag brackets will support soft bags for $177 I believe. Honda Magna brackets will fit for about 1/3 the price.
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The throw-overs will scuff your fender if they are anything like my Triumph slanted bags. If you decide to use only a solo seat and bare fender, there isn't really anything to secure the bags to the fender. If you have a pillion or the Speedmaster gunslinger seat, then the rear part of the seat snugs down over the fender strap and holds it secure.
The Easybrackets hold the bags out from the bike a good inch on each side and give the bike a wider profile. It doesn't sound like much, but it's noticable if you change from one setup to the other. The throw-overs fit closer in to the bike.
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What would be the best material to put UNDER the yoke to prevent the leather or laces from marring the paint?
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I guess no one system is perfect but the Easy Brackets really work for me on the Speedmaster. The other bonus besides easy removal is that they're locked in place on the bike. Those Leatherworks bags are very nice. Good luck with them!
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I bought the honda brackets and expanded them and bolted them straight on. Cost was bugger all. I then bought Dri rider expandable bags and fitted new straps so that they became throwovers that clip onto the brackets. Best of both worlds. I judge a saddle bag by its ability to stick a helmet in. They are not fitted all the time, only on trips. They are stylish in a briefcase sort of way. Waterproof and durable. I am quite happy
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What would be the best material to put UNDER the yoke to prevent the leather or laces from marring the paint?
Under a tank bag the main issue is grit rather than friction but I've seen people using clear plastic sheets (Tankslapper is a brand name) and also, there is a nonslip mesh stuff used for lining drawers that should work well.
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Like many here, I have had both. First the throwover with WillieandMax (synthetic leather) for a year then switched to Easybrackets and cut off the yoke.
No question in my mind, Easybrackets are the way to go. Why? Flexibility. I treat the bags as luggage and usually take them off into the hotel when traveling. Also, If I am not carrying laptop, folders, and other junk into work I prefer the "saddleless" look and remove them for commuting. And the easybrackets do not detract from the beautiful lines of my Triumph.
I lined one side of the WandM bag with aluminum rectangele heating duct for support. Works great. I suspect you may have to do that even with a leather bag.
If you do get the Leatherworks I'd be interested in your feedback...I have often looked at them. Just waiting for my WandM to wear out (which is taking forever!).
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Nothing is too big for EZ brackets if you support them correctly.
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another vote for easy brackets, good for cleaning, and nice to take them off and ride a clean bike when they are not needed
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Do the EZ brackets hold the bags out far enough to allow rectangular bags on our bikes (ie. outboard of the shocks)? I like the idea of rectangular bags to allow loading rectangular objects, like a laptop or notebooks.
Also, someone said that "nothing is too big for the EZ brackets" if the bags are supported. Does that mean the EZ brackets and the bolts themselves (ie. into the fenders) can hold the weight of any size saddlebag fully loaded?
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That would be me  Yes they hold the bags out far enough. My bags go straight down and almost hit the passenger peg. In fact, I found out this weekend that Kim can't really get her for ON the peg all the way because of them, so I will be re-attaching my bags, cheated back, to the brackets soon. What I mean by supported was a backing plate of some sort. I think Phil or Chy or someone made some plates that actually curl under the bag to support it. Several guys have had their bags break, but that is cause the load wasn't spread out. Some use fender washers... I say sandwich a large panel of something (aluminum, stainless, plexi, etc) in between the bracket and the bag. Then bolt the bag in several places (I used rivets) to the panel along with the TWO (only two?) bolts on the bracket. Should hold anything the material of the bag can handle.
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EZ Brackets are top quality too. Built for the long haul. Pictures you see DO NOT do them justice. one sturdy piece of equipment.
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Hey, also check "Ghost Bracket" they are on the web and in Poteau,Oklahoma.......but...Ghost Bracket OR Easy Bracket
more better than just throw overs.....also the older Triumph "beatle bags" fit our bikes...with the turn signal notch already there....just an idea
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IO have tow sets of Easy brackets, one on my Harley, with leather Auburn bags, they're been on for three years, can carry almost anything you put in them (like a case of beer!) And I put a set on my SM, with imitation leather bags from Auburn... not quite as nice, but considerable cheaper and they do the job quite nicely. Check out Leatherman Jim's site.. good people and good quality stuff... I bought a set of those cute Triumph cloth bags when I bought my bike this summer cause I wasnt' going to take long trips on it...HA! Ok, from Ohio to NY isn't really that far, I just bring a lot of stuff with me! http://leatherneckjim.safeshopper.com/Mary
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I'm still looking for a good material to protect the rear fender from throw over yokes. I've tried for a week to find 3M protective film with no luck or even get a clear idea of which would work best. Neoprene has been suggested. Has anyone on this forum experimented and come up with a good idea to protect the paint on the rear fender? If so, PLEASE share.
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I'm still looking for a good material to protect the rear fender from throw over yokes. I've tried for a week to find 3M protective film with no luck or even get a clear idea of which would work best. Neoprene has been suggested. Has anyone on this forum experimented and come up with a good idea to protect the paint on the rear fender? If so, PLEASE share.
You can buy the protective film from Griots Garage by the foot. I don't know if its 3M brand or not. I bought this film from them a number of years ago and didn't have an issue with it (other than me not being a professional at installing it). For the fender you may need to use two strips of it to protect the full width of the yoke, but with the yoke hiding it that seam shouldn't be a problem.
For what its worth, I just installed Easy Brackets on my bike a few days ago and they're great.
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Thanks Matt, I've been searching for a small quanity supplier. I couldn't find a auto parts place locally that knew what I was talking about. I'll check it out.
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Had a really nice deatiled post typed up on this - then lost it all with one bad key stroke. So here's the short version:
I agonized over bag styles and bracket combos for weeks last year.
On my Speedmaster now, I have the Easy Bracket & Leatherworks combo you are considering(Model 112+2 slants with outside rear pockets). You can actually get the 112's plus 2 extra inches for the SM & BA's. Same width & height as the 112's just 2 inches longer. The web site isn't totally clear on this but it's worth considering and the extra space is worth it.
I love the rear pockets, but had to position the bags right against the rear turn signals to give me short-legged wife enough room on the bike. And it's still restrictive for her leg movement on long rides. Without the rearpockets I could have gotten the bags 2-3 inches further back which would have been more confortable for her.
Regardless, I love the set-up. The Leatherworks bags, when ordered "for EZ brackets", have a nice hard backing that makes them rock solid on the bike when mounted to the brackets. The bags a quality.
Good luck,
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Easy brackets are more secure and won't wear through the paint on your mudguard. Throwover bags are easily stolen and will eventually remove all the paint.
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The posts for the EZ brackets also make great attachment points for bungees or straps for a tail bag.
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Ramsound - Here's another alternative. Closed cell neoprene actually used for a battery box but it would work. $3.99 at J&PCycles. web page
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Yes they hold the bags out far enough. My bags go straight down and almost hit the passenger peg. In fact, I found out this weekend that Kim can't really get her for ON the peg all the way because of them, so I will be re-attaching my bags, cheated back, to the brackets soon.
What I mean by supported was a backing plate of some sort. I think Phil or Chy or someone made some plates that actually curl under the bag to support it. Several guys have had their bags break, but that is cause the load wasn't spread out. Some use fender washers... I say sandwich a large panel of something (aluminum, stainless, plexi, etc) in between the bracket and the bag. Then bolt the bag in several places (I used rivets) to the panel along with the TWO (only two?) bolts on the bracket. Should hold anything the material of the bag can handle.
Hey Benny-
Any reason for putting the support between the bracket and the bag, and not inside the bag so that it can't be seen? Just wondering, as I have purchased the brackets, but have yet to install them.....
Thanks!
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Actually my support is inside the bag. I think as long as you attach it solidly at the top and at a couple other points in the bag you should be good to go. I riveted mine to my bags with aluminum rivets.
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Benny, is it very hard to attach the EZ bracket to the bags? Do you use a leatherhole punch or something to make holes in the bags for the bolts? I'm expecting my EZ brackets any day now. Thanks.
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Benny, is it very hard to attach the EZ bracket to the bags? Do you use a leatherhole punch or something to make holes in the bags for the bolts? I'm expecting my EZ brackets any day now. Thanks.
I used a large drill bit on mine. The bolts that come with the EZ brackets are fairly large in diameter - 5/8" at least?
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Actually my support is inside the bag. I think as long as you attach it solidly at the top and at a couple other points in the bag you should be good to go. I riveted mine to my bags with aluminum rivets.
Thanks Benny! Rock on.... 
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I think I drilled mine too, but a punch would leave a much cleaner hole. I also put a dab of silicone inside the rivet... Now that I have a sheet metal brake, and that the bags interfere with the rear pegs, I'm going to re-do them some day soon with some AL plate inside the bag.
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