Sorry I was thinking the stock TOR's they are 10" shorter...Ron (fishercat) has the longs on his and they seem to project beyond the tire...not where yours are Bob...perhaps there was some mid length for some time...as far as the loudness...I didn't notice any significant difference between my shorts and Rons longs...


THE VOICE OF REASON per: Stewart AF&AM/Shriner/Scoutmaster 130/45 TBS 2shim SS Uni 18/42