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Has any one installed a petcock from pingel. I got this one from Brent and it is two wide for the opening in the bottom of the tank. Nice chrome petcock just to big for the opening.
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Lots of us use them. You need to use a round rat-tail file or a round dremel wheel and make the opening a pubimeter larger. Just do a little at a time and it will fit.
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You know i was going to attempt that. I was concerned with filings dropping in the tank. Do i have to be concerned about that?
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i used a magent also to keep as much out as possible, also pick up gasket material as you will need it because the one they provide you with sucks
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a pubimeter
there's that word again  
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Yea how big is a pubimeter.
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depends whether it is a blond one or a black one
some times the light's all shining on me
other times I can barely see
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Yea how big is a pubimeter.
It's about the same as an RCH.
If you're not familiar with this scale,
PM me, and I'll explain.
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I remember using RCH when I was in surveying and then the crew chief nodded toward a p-o'd lady standing on the porch across the street. I looked around more after that.
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If you can, when filing the hole withn the rat-tailed file, file with the tank right-side up (like it sits on the bike), supported by a table or work bench and your other hand. That way, the filings fall out of the tank as you draw the file. Go slow and easy, and you should keep all of the filings contained to that general area - those that don't fall out, you could wipe out with your finger, or a wipe. YOU WILL NOT NEED TO OPEN HER UP VERY MUCH!
A pubimeter may be too much!
Really - just a couple of draws with the file, then test it. It really is not that big of a deal - real easy to do - but also real easy to overdo, too. Ask me how I know.
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How do you know? I finished the job and you are right i did not have to open very much. Less than a pubimeter. I was concerned with the gasket they give,those included gaskets sometimes are junk. For now it is holding fine.
One thing i do have to note, i did not have to choke to start after installation. I would imagine better gas flow.
Thanks all for your input, anther easy job completed.
Doug
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I really don't understand the need for a Pingel.
I hit the rev limiter before the carbs could starve???
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Same here. 1/2 the people who get em seem to have to widen the hole in the tank and some end up with leak problems. My stock one works fine and always has. And like you said, it flows faster than the bike could use by probably 10 times ! I mean, it fills the bowls till the float cuts it off from bone dry to full in about 2 seconds. If your bike could suck that much fuel you'd be getting about 5 MPG.
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The original Keihin petcocks are notorious for getting hard to turn after awhile. While the Pingel does flow much more fuel, the main reason for switching is they are constructed differently so they don't tighten up over time. That, and they are probably the only aftermarket petcock available. Oh, and they come in chrome..... 
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In addition to them sticking, there were reports that when switching to reserve, they would not deliver fuel. I have direct experience with this. Luckily, I was only 300 feet from a gas station. I changed to a Pingle immediately.
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I remember reading that if they get hard to turn the screw on the bottom will cure that.
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Then by all means, screw away! I prefer to Pingel. It's just a better spigot.
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1. The stock mikuni petcocks do not deliver fuel as well as the pingle under WOT. 2. On the stock petock grooves start to wear on the internal plastic valve within 500 miles...probably why your floats are 'flooding' after 2 seconds and 3. Once the plastic valve is worn its hard to turn.
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"flooding"? Not sure what you mean, but my floats stop right at the proper level, as i've checked them twice recently. In short, my tap does just fine thanks. Put it this way...how can better flow make any difference when the stocker could drain the entire tank probably 50 times faster than you could burn a tank of gas? Make sense?
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Make sense?
You or the statement?
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I ordered my pingel from Sel-motion back on september 16, 2003. Once installed I have never had a problem with fuel delivery or storage. Change it now as I changed mine for a reason you could not observe; it leaked. The pingel is not cosmetic. For me it was a required upgrade. The POS I removed is in a Brevard County Landfill. But keep the stocker, after all, fuel flow rates mean nothing, they never vary and your motor will only require fixed flow rates at all throttle openings.
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I'm just saying, and i'd like to hear how it could be wrong, that if you rode the bike as hard as possible do you think you could burn a tank of gas as fast as you could empy it with the stock tap? A guess would be that the tank would probably drain completely somewhere in the neighborhood of 10-20 minutes. I'd like to see someone burn a tank of fuel in that amount of time. Now, does THAT make sense? (i already know what you think of me)
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It's not only about how fast you can drain a tank. It's also about the fuel flow rate and the consistency of that rate. On a heavily modified bike, the stocker might not be able put out the flow rate demanded or do it consistently.
Personally, when I am running hard through some twisties (this weekend/all next week!!!!!!) and have the revs constantly above 5-6k, I sure as hell do not want to starve the carbs. I know I have that flow rate with the Pingle. If you are putting around town, the Pingle is just another bauble but a damn fine looking one!
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That's right! Have fun on your holiday and beware the fallen leaves. Doesn’t it go something like, "Please don't feed the wildlife?
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I installed the round Pingle also and haven't had any trouble with the supplied gaskets. Wonderfully simple little device and operates much more smoothly than the stocker. Looks great too!
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I think the stocker is made by Mikuni
and Kehins are the diamond shaped ones.
There are several brands that "should" work.
I bought a nice Kehin copy (female) & Pingel plate.
They were both 22mmX1.0 (s/a harley), but the thread flank
angle was different.
Since Pingel makes the plates, you have to comply with that.
I finally would up with a Pingel valve, & like it a lot.
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There is not a motorcycle owner among us who would not prefer the Pingle over the stock petcock if you saw them out of the tank, side by side. It is a night and day difference in quality and workmanship, well worth the few minutes to install and the $80 the part costs.
Your stock part may work okay now, but why wait for trouble? There is no good time for a fuel valve to fail.
Performance gain? Debateable. Reliabilty gain? Priceless.
Compare the two parts, and you won't even question it.
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I was going from memory and knew it was one of those Jap names. Keihin/Mikuni.... you know, the stock one that stiffens up with age....
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Have a Pingel, love it. It's just so silky smooth! Pretty sure the stock petcock would never "starve" the carbs, but who gives a rip? The Pingel just plain looks and works better.
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Is there a difference vs. stock as to the distance to empty after switching to reserve?
Women and cats will do as they please. Men and dogs should just get used to that fact and relax
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The Pingle Power-Flow appears to have a lower reserve port on the standpipe than the stock petcock. My tank takes about 3.5 gallons after hitting reserve. Your milage may vary. 
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I actually measured how much fuel I had left in tank after switching to reserve.
Almost a gallon once it was switched over.
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Have a part#? did you have to use an adapter?
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Have a part#? did you have to use an adapter?
Thanks
Here's a link to the manufacturer's WWW.
Pingel
Per the manufacturer Pingel part # for all Triumph's is:
6211-AH
Required adapter plate part number is:
A1602C
Here's a link to their price-list:
PriceList
Not sure what they charge for mandatory UPS shipping, but I'd call. This is a $23 saving over Brent's price.
Before I'm chastised, I do shop with Brent from time to time and feel he does a great job supporting our bikes. But hey $23 is $23.
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Have a part#? did you have to use an adapter?
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Here's a link to the manufacturer's WWW.
Pingel
Per the manufacturer Pingel part # for all Triumph's is:
6211-AH
Required adapter plate part number is:
A1602C
Here's a link to their price-list:
PriceList
Not sure what they charge for mandatory UPS shipping, but I'd call. This is a $23 saving over Brent's price.
Before I'm chastised, I do shop with Brent from time to time and feel he does a great job supporting our bikes. But hey $23 is $23.
My bad, 6211-CH is for the chrome one and add $6
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Have a part#? did you have to use an adapter?
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Here's a link to the manufacturer's WWW.
Pingel
Per the manufacturer Pingel part # for all Triumph's is:
6211-AH
Required adapter plate part number is:
A1602C
Here's a link to their price-list:
PriceList
Not sure what they charge for mandatory UPS shipping, but I'd call. This is a $23 saving over Brent's price.
Before I'm chastised, I do shop with Brent from time to time and feel he does a great job supporting our bikes. But hey $23 is $23.
My bad, 6211-CH is for the chrome one and add $6
After further review.
The link to the download-able pdf catalog on their site has incorrect prices. Per their On-line ordering system: 6211-CH is 80.90 and A1602C is 19.95 (100.85). Brent's price is much better.
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The stock one is $86 at my dealer. So, it's kinda no brainer!
Pingel all the way.
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The link to the download-able pdf catalog on their site has incorrect prices. Per their On-line ordering system: 6211-CH is 80.90 and A1602C is 19.95 (100.85). Brent's price is much better.
Thanks for clarifying this.
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Mounting bolts are 34mm OC.
Pick your poison re: npt or metric, but get the right plate for whatever valve you get.
I used 22mm - 6311CH & A1603C.
This lets you orient the valve the way you want & then tighten it up.
The 1/4npt is interesting too.
Sounds like this might work without enlarging the opening in the tank.
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