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How come it seems that when somebody gets killed by a drunk driver - its usually not their first offense? I think we need to hit first time offenders alot harder! Maybe they won't become multiple offenders. Maybe I'm over simplifying things?
I think it's because the way our criminal justus system works,like most civilized counrty's we feel anyone can make a mistake and first offeneders are givin the benifit of a dought.Trouble is the fisrt time they get caought drunk driving probably isnt the first time the drove drunk.So for that reason fisrt offence should be tough but reasonable,
say a years suspention and a heavy fine........second offence should be decapitation.
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How come it seems that when somebody gets killed by a drunk driver - its usually not their first offense? I think we need to hit first time offenders alot harder! Maybe they won't become multiple offenders. Maybe I'm over simplifying things?
Doesn't matter how hard they get hit. The root cause of drunk driving is the moron who did the driving. They don't care about life itself so why on earth do they care about the penalty.
Alcoholism is an ailment, drunk driving is an intentional act that has no relationship to the disease.
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In Oklahoma if you hurt or kill someone while DUI the police can have your blood taken even if you don't give your consent. I believe that it is the same in FL......Angelis
I wasn't gonna get in on this, but its late friday night,I'm tired, have had my 2 snorts after getting home from dinner, and......
Its the same in Arizona, you refuse to give a test as requested, on any DUI, even if noone is hurt, the officers can and do get a warrant - takes just about 20 minutes, however long it take the officer to fill out the check list warrant and fax it to a judge and get it faxed back, and he's taking your blood whether you agree or not.
I just convicted my second felony DUI in 2 weeks (2 trials) - luckily neither involved accidents. My next two trials set are accident cases, but only minor injuries luckily.
Send Billy here, I'd love to try his a@@ and send him to prison, not just jail!!! I sent some poor lady to prison for a year (absolutely no prior record) whose rear seat passenger was ejected during a single vehicle accident - she was on meth and marijuana at the time. And she got off very light!
In AZ if you license is suspended & you are DUI its a felony; the first time you are convicted of that felony DUI, its a minimum 4 months prison as a term of probation. I'm working on sending a guy away for 8-15 years for his 9th - yes count them - 9th felony DUI!!! I wish I could send him for more!!!!
Anyway, I'll get off my soapbox now, and go to bed.
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9th - yes count them - 9th felony DUI!!!
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Ya know...I'm surprised nobody's thought o' THIS solution to the dunderheads who can't seem to learn to control their intake of alcohol and are THEN caught DRIVING themselves somewhere.....
After their FIRST OFFENSE(and subsequent conviction), these "problem children" will ONLY hold a license to operate A MOTORCYCLE, for a period of time to be prescribed by the attending judge!(a minimum of 3 years should work, I'd say)
Ya see....THEN these particular....as I said, "problem children" would soon find out what it's like to be a friggin' TARGET out there on the road.
AND...this also has the added benefit that if these....as I said, "problem children" SHOULD revert back to form and then drink and drive while riding said motorcycle, the chances that they'll kill ONLY THEMSELVES is almost assured.
Because, as we all should know by now, one can kill a hell of a lot more people while driving some two ton SUV/truck/automobile while intoxicated, than they surely can while riding a motorcycle, YA KNOW!(this is the first rule of PHYSICS)
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What a Loser! His highschool act was bound to end sooner or later.
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Update...  05-2006-CF-027824-AXXX-XX - STATE VS LANE WILLIAM DAVID Initial Criminal Charge Information Arst No. Cnt Offense Dt Statute Number Charge Class Degree 1 1 09/25/2006 316.193.3.C.3 DUI MANSLAUGHTER FELONY SECOND DEGREE 1 2 09/25/2006 322.34.6B DWLS RVKD OR CNCLD WITH SERIOUS INJURY OR DEATH FELONY THIRD DEGREE 1 3 09/25/2006 316.193.3C.2 DUI SERIOUS BODILY INJURY FELONY THIRD DEGREE Prosecutor Criminal Charge Information Cnt Pros Filing Dt Statute Number Charge Class Degree Pros Action Pros Act Dt 1 10/19/2006 316.193.3.C.3 DUI MANSLAUGHTER FELONY SECOND DEGREE FILED 10/19/2006 2 322.34.6B DWLS RVKD OR CNCLD WITH SERIOUS INJURY OR DEATH FELONY THIRD DEGREE NO ACTION 10/19/2006 3 316.193.3C.2 DUI SERIOUS BODILY INJURY FELONY THIRD DEGREE NO ACTION 10/19/2006 Court/Final Criminal Charge Information Cnt Record No. Charge Dt Statute Charge Class Degree Disp Dt Final Disp Citation No. 1 1 09/04/2006 DUI MANSLAUGHTER FELONY SECOND DEGREE 20063322SGP 2 1 09/25/2006 DWLS RVKD OR CNCLD WITH SERIOUS INJURY OR DEATH FELONY THIRD DEGREE 10/19/2006 DISMISSED 20063323SGP 3 1 09/25/2006 DUI SERIOUS BODILY INJURY FELONY THIRD DEGREE 10/19/2006 DISMISSED 20063324SGP 05-2006-CF-027824-AXXX-XX - STATE VS LANE WILLIAM DAVID Party Type: PLAINTIFF (1) Ptcpt Id: 3684 Name: STATE OF FLORIDA Date of Birth: Date of Death: Sex: Origin: Height: Weight: Hair Color: Eye Color: Address 1: 2725 JUDGE FRAN JAMIESON WAY BLDG D Address 2: City State Zip: VIERA, FL 32940 Party Type: DEFENDANT (1) Ptcpt Id: 189353 Name: LANE WILLIAM DAVID Date of Birth: 02/06/1970 Date of Death: Sex: Origin: WHITE Height: 5 Ft. 8 In. Weight: 165 Hair Color: BLACK Eye Color: Address 1: 9355 HWY A1A Address 2: City State Zip: MELBOURNE BEACH, FL 32951
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What a minute!!! Am I missing somethin' here, Moe?
This Bozo's drunken antics go back almost A YEAR, two of the three initial counts against him are dropped, and he's STILL hasn't come to trial for the now ONLY second-degree manslaughter charge???
(heck...you guys must have some ex-Los Angeles County Judges/Prosecutors/Juries workin' down your way nowdays, huh?!)
What a joke!!! And in THIS CASE, I DON'T mean "joke"!!!
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I've been wondering what happened with this.
I guess money does talk.
What a shame,
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What does it say about us if this gets 5 pages of angry rants and Michael Vick gets 10? 
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Who is Billy Lane? what's he do?. sounds like he's a celebrity over there in the States. You don't have to be a celebrity over here in Australia to get a slap on the wrist and sent home after killing innocent people on the road, it happens all the time, it's a bloody shambles our legal system, A drunk driver driving on a suspended liscense for drink driving previously runs off the road and kills 2 pedrestrians walking on a footpath and gets off scott free & the ****** smiles on his way out of court. And on the other hand a bloke that owes the Govt. a few dollars in taxes gets 15 mths. - just don't make sense to me
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One less idiot on the road, they should never have a licence again if it was upto me
Unfortunalty Ray loss of licence dosnt garrentee they wont drive again, A woman not far from here ran over and killed a postal letter carrier couple years ago. Lost licence for life. 2 months ago she was arrested again for DUI.
Now a single .45 cal round to the back of the skull would pretty much keep him off the road forever,(if convicted of course) but we are too civilized for that.
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Lane's license was already suspended over a DUI in NC(I think).
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What does it say about us if this gets 5 pages of angry rants and Michael Vick gets 10?
Well Brian, seeing a how I was in BOTH of these mobs(in one I held a pitchfolk, and in the other a torch), I think it might say somethin' about dumb animals(I'm talkin' the kind that can't speak for themselves, not those two-legged kind who's porchlights are a little dim...like non-reformed DRUNKS) are always pretty much at the mercy of those two-legged animals.(even those previous mentioned "dim porchlighted members" of this species)
And, even though said "dim porchlighted members of this species often get in their cars after drinking a little too much, when these idi...err...excuse me...dim porchlighted members of this species KILL somebody, it's kind'a of an accident, and almost entirely preventable accident of course, but "kind of" an accident, just the same.
But, when another dim porchlighted member of this species pits another two of a different species into a ring and the desired outcome is to witness a PURPOSEFUL slaughter of this other species in a grizly manner, I'd say offhand that THIS is a little more cruel and inhumane than the former action would be. Wouldn't you say?!
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Who is Billy Lane?
Billy Lane builds custom bikes, The real Irony of this is that they guy he hit head on was on a scooter. Well know in some parts of the states, Just never got an OCC style tv show.
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If Billy doesn't wind up doing time for choosing to kill a man (which is exactly what he did here) there is something wrong with the system.
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Don't forget, in the US a suspect is considered innocent until proven to be out of money.
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Don't forget, in the US a suspect is considered innocent until proven to be out of money.
You got that right.
What i find so frustrating. Why does it take so long to get these guys into court. This happened nearly a year ago. And its a cut and dry case. He was drunk while driving his pick up truck and he ran head on into a guy and killed him. Whats the point in a trial. Its a done deal. Strip him of his wealth and lock him up for 10 years.
Instead he will probably get a slap on the wrist, a small fine and then get a movie deal out of it.
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You think he will play himself in the movie? The whole thing is nuts. Superstars always seem to get around the law and don't get what they deserve.
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I wouldn't class him as a super star. Not even a great bike builder. Simply a run of the mill biker who got lucky and got on TV.
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His hubless rear wheel is what got his name out there. It's a really slick design. Sad somebody with that kind of potential tosses it all away. Sadder still that he tossed somebody elses life away in the process.
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His hubless rear wheel is what got his name out there. It's a really slick design. Sad somebody with that kind of potential tosses it all away. Sadder still that he tossed somebody elses life away in the process.
Well, speaking of "potential", Nathen....I'd trade a thousand Billy Lanes for just one John Britten. Now THERE was a guy with limitless potential who that darn "Big C"(cancer) took from the motorcycling world at the tender age of only 45! 
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What a minute!!! Am I missing somethin' here, Moe?
This Bozo's drunken antics go back almost A YEAR, two of the three initial counts against him are dropped, and he's STILL hasn't come to trial for the now ONLY second-degree manslaughter charge???
(heck...you guys must have some ex-Los Angeles County Judges/Prosecutors/Juries workin' down your way nowdays, huh?!)
What a joke!!! And in THIS CASE, I DON'T mean "joke"!!!
Yes you are missing something. Seems like the Judge in this case has had issues with performing her duties in the past. INQUIRY CONCERNING A JUDGE, NOS. 03-47; 03-57 & 03-215 RE: MERYL L. ALLAWAS June 30, 2005 Happy reading.
Mr. Lane had a Blood alcohol level of .19. Florida's threshold is .08. Now do the math.
One Judge who can't seem to find the time to issue rulings, a blood alcohol level more than double the legal limit, one wasted Billy Lane passing on a double yellow line in his truck and runs head-on into a guy. That adds up to one rich attorney, society being screwed again, and one dead Gerald Morelock, R.I.P..
grrrrrr. At least the OCC boys don't drink and drive.
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I wouldn't class him as a super star. Not even a great bike builder. Simply a run of the mill biker who got lucky and got on TV.
Yes. He is most definitely NOT a super star. William David Lane refuses to pay the hospital $8,422 that he received services from because of the accident he caused and the hospital had to file a lien against him because he won't pay his bills. Claim of Lien by Holmes Regional Medical Center
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Lane's license was already suspended over a DUI in NC(I think).
Well it appears that his license is suspended currently...
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As of Aug 18, 2007, at 08:41 AM, driver license number L500-924-70-046-0 is SUSPENDED, REVOKED, CANCELED, or DISQUALIFIED and EXPIRED. This license is a Class E. Restrictions are (NONE ON RECORD). Endorsements are (NONE ON RECORD). Motorcycle endorsements are MOTORCYCLE ALSO.
Effective Date 10/16/2006
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Send his a** to Williamson county Texas. You don't want to be caught in this county drinking-gray bar hotel time. Now just across the line in Travis county, where Austin is, that's a different story.
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The ESTATE OF GERALD V MORELOCK has a Civil court action filed through which they are trying to dole justice, OJ style.
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What does it say about us if this gets 5 pages of angry rants and Michael Vick gets 10?
Well Brian, seeing a how I was in BOTH of these mobs(in one I held a pitchfolk, and in the other a torch), I think it might say somethin' about dumb animals(I'm talkin' the kind that can't speak for themselves, not those two-legged kind who's porchlights are a little dim...like non-reformed DRUNKS) are always pretty much at the mercy of those two-legged animals.(even those previous mentioned "dim porchlighted members" of this species)
And, even though said "dim porchlighted members of this species often get in their cars after drinking a little too much, when these idi...err...excuse me...dim porchlighted members of this species KILL somebody, it's kind'a of an accident, and almost entirely preventable accident of course, but "kind of" an accident, just the same.
But, when another dim porchlighted member of this species pits another two of a different species into a ring and the desired outcome is to witness a PURPOSEFUL slaughter of this other species in a grizly manner, I'd say offhand that THIS is a little more cruel and inhumane than the former action would be. Wouldn't you say?!
No. When someone is going about their daily business, not harming anyone, just going down the same old road as yesterday, and BAM! they get run over and killed, yeah it's worse. Maybe the fact that next could be you, me, or anyone we know makes it worse. But it is.
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Well, I'll agree with you that the innocent suffer in both instances, Brian, but I still say that the wanton cruelty that people like Vick (allegedly) perpetrate on the innocent, even if those innocents don't happen to be human, is just a little more sick. And this same goes for children who have little say in this world also, of course.
If I would die today riding my M/C or driving my car or truck, I made the conscious decision beforehand to risk my life out there on the streets that I know contain a percentage of impaired people who shouldn't be out there on the same roads as me. This doesn't absolve them of their responsiblity to drive sober, but I know they're out there.
My two dogs rely on me to make decisions and to treat them well.
This may be more a case of apple/oranges though, but I didn't bring up this comparsion about the relative morality of these situations.
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I agree with Dwight and I think the point is choice. Billy and the poor biker that got killed had a choice to go out and risk their lives on the road. Vics dogs and any dog in the "sport" (for lack of a better term) have no choice and are horribly treated and executed all inflicted upon them. Granted the biker wasn't killed because he wanted to be but he did have the choice to ride or not to ride the dogs had no such choice about fighting or being executed at a loss. I agree it sucks and Billy should have to pay but I feel Vic perpetrated a much uglier offence. He also lacks any common decency and should be treated as such but the sad truth is he will get off with what I consider a slap on the wrist compared to what should happen to him. They should lock him up just as if he was executing people since to me dogs are people too. I tend to like dogs much more than most people and fail to understand how anyone can be so cruel to an animal. I look in my dogs eyes and see nothing but an innocent beast that depends on me for everything and trusts me no matter what. I would never in a million years betray that trust.
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See ya in Clovis, Ian!  (I hear Greybeard likes dogs too)  
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At least Billy Lane was drunk so you can surmise he didn't cross the yellow line on purpose; Vick on the other hand did his dreadful work on purpose and with no remorse. To me that's a whole lot worse.
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Lane was stupid,irresposible and reckless. The result was the los of the most precious of life, that of a human. Whereas, with Vick and Co, the acts of premeditated crulety, the participation and promotion of violence against innocent and dependent beings, the use of them and their demise for profit and sick entertainment, simply the evilness of all of it is over the top and adds up to so much more than Lane's stupidity ( although all the dogs live's do not add up to close to the value of one human life ).
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Should be Riding
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Should be Riding
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I wouldn't class him as a super star. Not even a great bike builder. Simply a run of the mill biker who got lucky and got on TV.
I wouldn't consider him a supstar anything either, and agree that he got lucky making him a media superstar. There are plenty of no talent people out there with superstar status and they all seem to get the sympathy to get away with almost anything.
Soren
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Re: Billy Lane charged in death of rider
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Check Pants
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Check Pants
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Haell, this happened nearly one year ago. Is there any update on if justic was served. If I'm a betting man, I'm swinging towards....no.
Google yielded no recent hits...
Last edited by ssjones; 08/18/2007 6:26 PM.
Al
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Re: Billy Lane charged in death of rider
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"Lighten up, Francis."
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"Lighten up, Francis."
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As far as bike building goes, Lane is a one trick pony. Jesse James is far more talented and seems to constantly reinvent himself and his style. And most other bike builders I've seen on TV, while not superstars, are far more talented than Lane. Being a professional dirtbag only works if you don't screw up. Beyond that all it does is sell bike parts and advertising for TV shows.
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Re: Billy Lane charged in death of rider
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Should be Riding
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Should be Riding
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Haell, this happened nearly one year ago. Is there any update on if justic was served. If I'm a betting man, I'm swinging towards....no.
Google yielded no recent hits...
Justice?
Photo taken Aug 22 '07
Blowing gravel off rural roads
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