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Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance
#121771 01/03/2007 10:52 AM
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Has anyone read this book? I'm teaching it as part of a course on American Philosophy this Spring and I'd love some feedback from folks who have been in the saddle longer than me. Was one of my favorite books before I bought a bike and probably influenced that decision. Thanks.

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I read it before I started riding on the road maybe 5 years ago. Just started rereading it last night. Makes more sense now.

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I read it 20 years ago and barely remember anything about it.


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That's a wonderful book, only slightly about motorcycles and more about the importance of doing things right. I've got a copy that has, what seemed to me to be signifigant parts, underlined. I'll try to dig it out this evening and post back. SteveB


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Also read it many, many years ago and I am currently about half way through a re-read. I find it significant from several perspectives - 1. As XLD said, it relates to doing things correctly. 2. It deals with 'oneness' between man and machine - more precisely, between the human thought process and functionality of inanimate objects. 3. Relates and brings forth many great memories of motorcycling of yesterday - Many of which I'm pleased are just memory. 4. Relates to both the joy and struggle of the journey - both riding motorcycles and life itself.

I get lost in some of the mythology at many points at it sometimes requires a re-read or a wait-and-see to get the point - But then I'm just a poor country boy.

I suppose anyone with a philosophical sense can enjoy it and take something from it, but I suppose being a motorcycle nut makes it a lot less dry and places a bit more meaning to it all.


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I've read the book several times. It's very thought provoking. It has been influential in my approach to life. My original copy was given to me back in college by the guy who first got me interested in motorcycles.

Each time I read it I was at a different stage of my life, and I was comparing the different experiences from those times. I took away something different each time I read it.

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holy sh1te ,now theres a flashback ,zen and the art of mc maint, gotta be 25 years or so since i looked at that book (never finished it )to busy with 3 paper stogies ,shaggin,gettin drunk and sewing my levis (and yes in that order)heh heh ..........must try and read that again,hopefully carlos castanada(sp)doesnt get in the way again

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It is positively the best book I have ever read. I have three copies of it, along with a guide book. I greatly anticipated Pirsig's second book (the title was "Lila"), and it was awful. I read Zen long before I got my first motorcycle, but I was always interested in them, so the title was probably responsible for me reading it the first time. Every opportunity I get, I try to convince other folks to read it. When I suggest it I usually get a strange look, but what the heck....


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Although I think it steals from the "mystique" that is reading a good book....

It is available on line as an E-book (for free) here


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Has anyone read this book? I'm teaching it as part of a course on American Philosophy this Spring and I'd love some feedback from folks who have been in the saddle longer than me. Was one of my favorite books before I bought a bike and probably influenced that decision. Thanks.




Oh sure Mike. Yeah...YOU read the book, huh?! You just want some "feedback"! Riiiiiiiight!

Come on! Fess up! You're too cheap to go buy the Cliff Notes for that BOOK REPORT that's due friday, aren't cha?! And you figured THIS GROUP, who's always eager help out anyone in need, would help ya out of the MESS you're in now, HUH?!

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Yeah, good read - lots to think about - only sad note is that Robert's son Chris was murdered in San Francisco a few years later...makes you value the moment.


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MotoZens,

Here is a site (there are many). Click on the page after you tire of the Zen music. It has route maps etc.

http://zamm.home.att.net/

JH


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Has anyone read this book? I'm teaching it as part of a course on American Philosophy this Spring and I'd love some feedback from folks who have been in the saddle longer than me. Was one of my favorite books before I bought a bike and probably influenced that decision. Thanks.




Oh sure Mike. Yeah...YOU read the book, huh?! You just want some "feedback"! Riiiiiiiight!

Come on! Fess up! You're too cheap to go buy the Cliff Notes for that BOOK REPORT that's due friday, aren't cha?! And you figured THIS GROUP, who's always eager help out anyone in need, would help ya out of the MESS you're in now, HUH?!




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I was only lukewarm about "Zen..." I saw where he was going, but I'm not sure I like how he tried to get there (please pardon the puns).

Check out "The Perfect Vehicle; What it is about Motorcycles" by Melissa Holbrook Pierson. Link:

http://www.amazon.com/Perfect-Vehicle-What-about-Motorcycles/dp/0393318095

I think you'll find it very, very worthwhile.

Additionally, I'd recommend "Song of the Sausage Creature" by H.S. Thompson -- an essay, not a full-length "novel," but he brilliantly captures the essence of being a motorhead.

Or "On the Road," of course. Not bikes, but... well, y'know.

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My copy is held together with fiberglass packing tape, a rubberband, and lots of Post-Its (and I'd hate to think the Mrs. tossed it, because I can't put my hands on it). I read it the first time in 1975, and have read it every couple of years to see what's new.

Have always thought about making the trip myself, or creating my own.

Along with "Zen," I'd also recommend this, available at amazon.com ... "Guidebook to Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance" by Ron Di Santo and Tom Steele (Paperback - Nov 19, 1990). Very academic, but it provides a lot of background, and also breaks down the trip on a day-by-day basis.

Another book in the same vein is "Blue Highways" by William Least Heat Moon.

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Another book in the same vein is "Blue Highways" by William Least Heat Moon.




I read Blue Highways while living in the land of Red Rock Highways, it's in a box somewhere around here? I think one of his messages was to slow down and smell the roses if I remember correctly. That's hard to do, especially when you have to do strange things like "schedule" vacations.

Being a fortunate boy, periodically riding the BA across these MT landscapes for work tends to soften the edges

JH

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