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Single 'pop' on start-up
#114786 11/27/2006 9:24 AM
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Guys,
The last couple of days I've had a single back-fire...hardly even that...just a 'pop' but loud enough, when I start her up. Anything to be concerned about ? I never re-jetted after removing the snorkel figuring all was OK since it was jetted when the pipes were fitted. It runs great apart from that. Thanks for your help.


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Re: Single 'pop' on start-up
NewJerseyWelsh #114787 11/27/2006 10:39 AM
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If you give throttle when you start you can get the carbs to backfire (which can, and will, crack the airbox).
There is no need to use throttle when starting, if this is the case. Just use the choke.


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Re: Single 'pop' on start-up
Reido113 #114788 11/27/2006 11:01 AM
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Thanks man but I don't touch the throttle on start-up (I've read the threads on that !)


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Re: Single 'pop' on start-up
NewJerseyWelsh #114789 11/27/2006 11:04 AM
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Hmmm
Is the pop while cranking or just after the start?
Exhaust or carbs?


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Reido113 #114790 11/27/2006 11:10 AM
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Exhaust and it is immediately on start-up...a split second after cranking.


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Re: Single 'pop' on start-up
NewJerseyWelsh #114791 11/27/2006 11:16 AM
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Did you ever try backing out your mixture screws about a 1/4 turn (possibly a 1/2)?
When you remove the snorkel, you should have to back the screw out a bit, but shouldn't have to re-jet.
This would give you a tad more air in the idle circuit. You may just be a hair rich and unburnt fuel is slipping into the header and buring there. The tad of air may help it combust in the cylinder.


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Reido113 #114792 11/27/2006 11:28 AM
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I think you're right. I haven't backed out the mixture at all since removing the snorkel. I was thinking that was the likely answer. I'm going to order a set of Brent's screws but until they arrive I guess it'll be OK ??? So....which way is out ? Towards the front is richer or leaner ?


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Re: Single 'pop' on start-up
NewJerseyWelsh #114793 11/27/2006 11:35 AM
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Looking up at the bottom of the carbs. Counterclockwise is out . You shouldn't have to turn much, try just 1/4 turn at a time.
You don't need new screws, just a D tool to turn the screws.

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Re: Single 'pop' on start-up
Reido113 #114794 11/27/2006 11:36 AM
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Got it. Thanks again man.


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Also, it's always good to synch the carbs after you do any adjustments. F.Y.I. The carbs come from the dealer out of synch. Ask me how I know this.


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Re: Single 'pop' on start-up
NewJerseyWelsh #114796 11/27/2006 11:43 AM
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Also not a bad idea to check the couplers from head to carb. They seem to work themselves loose a bit and can cause a backfire on ignition if not tight.


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Re: Single 'pop' on start-up
blackdog #114797 11/27/2006 11:45 AM
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Yep and the stock clamps can be completly tightend and still not be tight enough.


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Reido113 #114798 11/27/2006 12:13 PM
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...and they can be sinked with just the carb screws (and a carb tuner of course) ???


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Re: Single 'pop' on start-up
NewJerseyWelsh #114799 11/27/2006 12:29 PM
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Quote:

...and they can be sinked with just the carb screws (and a carb tuner of course) ???




Here's a link to a homemade manometer that works well for me. I use it all the time with absolutely no problem.

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blackdog #114800 11/27/2006 12:50 PM
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...couplers from head to carb.




Sorry guys - you need to help me with that one? Not sure what you mean by couplers ?


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Re: Single 'pop' on start-up
77T140V #114801 11/27/2006 12:51 PM
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Thanks 77t140v.


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Re: Single 'pop' on start-up
Reido113 #114802 11/27/2006 12:53 PM
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Yep and the stock clamps can be completly tightend and still not be tight enough.




Ahh - now I know what you mean 'couplers'. I've never tightneded the clamps so that's worth a try. Thanks.


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Re: Single 'pop' on start-up
NewJerseyWelsh #114803 11/27/2006 4:38 PM
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couplers = Rubber between carbs and engine. If your clamps are all the way "closed" tightened, you may want to pick up some Stainless Steel Hose Clamps.


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Re: Single 'pop' on start-up
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Quote:

...and they can be sinked with just the carb screws (and a carb tuner of course) ???




No.
Here's a link to Dinqua's site (available through the tech vault) that does an excellent job of explaining the process.

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Re: Single 'pop' on start-up
bigbill #114805 11/28/2006 9:39 AM
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Cool - thanks again guys. Appreciate your help.


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Re: Single 'pop' on start-up
NewJerseyWelsh #114806 11/28/2006 11:18 AM
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Nice catch Bill!


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