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I don't need no Stinking FREAK!!
#109946 11/04/2006 4:09 PM
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This is the first test of the side cover and fake air cleaner fit. Note that that IS a K&N Filter as used by
the FREAK kits.

I'd call this a SUPER Modified Air Box!!

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privateer #109947 11/04/2006 4:49 PM
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How's the other side look?

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how about some more detail

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Frank #109949 11/04/2006 4:56 PM
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Almost done with the left side so I'll post
Good pics and a good right up to!!

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privateer #109950 11/04/2006 11:17 PM
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OK, The left side was finished also.
I'll tell you this for now.
Right side, Remove seat, fake cover and one screw and you
can change filter.
Left side, remove seat, battery, fake cover stuff, two screws and you can change filter.
While seat is off we will need to back off on filter
pushy thingy, carb brace whatcha wanna callit.
(Ain't got this done yet! )

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privateer #109951 11/04/2006 11:22 PM
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I don't have to remove my battery to get mine off


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bennybmn #109952 11/04/2006 11:26 PM
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Yup.
And I didn't spent but $70 for filters to do mine!


Oh,
And did WE forget the $35 carb brace?
Or was that I'm LOADED Phil?
Hummmm,
Seems I'm a few $$$ up on ya!

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privateer #109953 11/04/2006 11:29 PM
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And I might have gotten mine second hand from someone


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bennybmn #109954 11/04/2006 11:31 PM
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FREAKIN BRAGGARD!!!

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privateer #109955 11/04/2006 11:33 PM
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Hahah actually I didn't, but I have gotten a lot of my stuff that way! Really I got it a couple years ago before I had a garage to work in, lots of tools, a bending brake, and confidence to tear into my bike. Otherwise I would have tried making my own Maybe I will make one out of AL or stainless sometime and then sell the pieces to some here... We'll see.


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bennybmn #109956 11/04/2006 11:49 PM
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Actually, this is setup in an attempt to help
our members that do not own the equipment
nor want to spend the money to go to what
I will refer to as the "Extreme".

This is a low buck way, using what ya got
that, I believe, will give you that same
effect.

Can it be better? Lets see!
That's what this is all about.
Take this idea and MAKE it better!!!
Nobody else has posted this extreme a way to
hack an airbox!
NO WHERE ON THE WEB BUT HERE!!!!


Super Modified Airbox for the America & SpeedMaster.

Only on BA.com

Watch and see!!!

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privateer #109957 11/04/2006 11:49 PM
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You have a part number for those filters


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Erwin #109958 11/04/2006 11:53 PM
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RC-2890 RC-2900
On this mod, use right on left
left on right.

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Quote:

RC-2890 RC-2900
On this mod, use right on left
left on right.




2850= L & 2900= R ?

And where did you buy them?


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Erwin #109960 11/05/2006 12:16 AM
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I forget. But if you do a search going back
around Febuary or March, I believe, it should be posted
on this site. Some Truck place.

The side to side switch is just for what I'm doing now.

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privateer #109961 11/05/2006 12:21 AM
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ok, Thanks


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ok, Thanks


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Erwin #109963 11/05/2006 1:07 AM
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Now, Before You all start choppin' up your
Air boxes.

I have another mod to do that will be easier,
and cost less for the filter.

Remember, We got a LONG winter ahead!!!

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privateer #109964 11/05/2006 11:24 AM
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Keep us posted. Being the cheap SOB that I am, so far, I've balked at the costly Freak.


Al
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Re: I don't need no Stinking FREAK!!
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Interesting. So you need:
Carb brace
2 K&N filters
Anything else?

How did you make the cuts and what did you use? On the bike or did you pull the box and cut off the bike. This certainly looks do-able, thanks for posting.


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ssjones #109967 11/05/2006 3:21 PM
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Pulled the box out then cut with a Dremel.
I got another box that I'll mark with a white
grease pencil and take more shots of.

Being this first one was the prototype,
I made several cuts so I could check clearence
and fit.
So it's actually cut in places it really doesn't
need to be.

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privateer #109968 11/05/2006 5:03 PM
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Sweet! I could use a small cutting wheel on my air die-grinder. Smells like HP to me!


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privateer #109969 11/07/2006 12:57 PM
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Quote:

Posted more pics here.




Thanks for the pics. My question is why would you cut up the airbox and not just remove it?


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Erwin #109970 11/07/2006 1:10 PM
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It's a cheap way to keep your side cover mounts
and fake air cleaners.

I have all the equipment to make metal supports
but just wanted to experiment abit hoping
it may help someone.

I'll be posting more pics soon of this airbox mod
plus pics of the metal replacements also.

And I'm working on a totaly different airbox mod
also.

But I need to get some modeling clay 1st.

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Oooh... hot damn.

Waiting for more info with baited breath.

--Jaeger


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privateer #109972 11/08/2006 5:37 PM
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It's a cheap way to keep your side cover mounts
and fake air cleaners.





Got it. Ive had the covers off enough and never actually realized it was part of the airbox. Now it all make sence.


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Erwin #109973 11/12/2006 9:47 AM
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hey Jeff,

were you planning on posting kind of a detailed how-to on this procedure? i'm pretty sure i could figure it out given the idea (thanks!) but would benefit from any insight you might have to shortcuts, gotcha's, etc. i'd be really interested to see more pics sans the pseudo air cleaners to see exactly how you made the cuts.

also, am i understanding correctly that the point to this mod is to save money by using the structure of the airbox to provide support to the carbs and still have something to connect the cheese grates to - eg to not have to pay for the bracket that's included in the Freak kit?

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Working on new pics with the cut box next to a stock box.
The stock box will be marked with white grease paint
as to where it should be cut to keep strength.
The cut box is butchered pretty good as I wanted clearence
so I could look inside for fit.
Plus pointers as to why and how and thoughts on several
areas to think about.

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Awesome. Waiting patiently...:)

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Oh, Gents (and Ladies, if you're out there)...

Can someone in the know give me a 1-10 comparison between the stock air filter, the drop-in K&N, and the K&N Pods? I'm really straddling the fence here about what to do -- I know I need to replace the stock filter, but I"m not sure whether to get the $55 drop-in unit, or wait a few more months, save my pennies, and hope I can afford the full Freak... or d'ya think this chop-mod will allow me to use the $75 pods without the rest of the freak?

Help? Opinions?

--Jaeger

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More photos uploaded

These new pics are side by side cut box and stock box.

1st,
DO NOT cut the box top like I did.
The stock box is marked as to how it should be done.
This will keep the strength and shape.

2nd,
DO NOT cut the right side open like I did.
Again, we want to keep the shape and strength.

I think that the top opened and all the front cut away
will give LOTS of air.
Plus you now have a handy box under the seat
that stuff won't fall out of!

A few more things COULD be done,
I think a wise idea would be a small piece of sheet metal
attached at the front for the 2 small tabs that hold the
cheese graters.

Those would be the weak spots as we're lookin at plastic here.
At least some kind of safety wire attached to the cheese
graters so they don't blow down the road should the tabs
break.

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Hrm. That doesn't look too awful. Couple of (stupid) questions:

1) Did you need to remove the airbox altogether to make all the cuts, or can you do it with the airbox still in the bike?

2) Did you need to re-route the crank case breather tube?

3) Did you need to use a brace for the carbs when you were done?

Thanks!

--Jaeger


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1. Yes. I removed the box. I doubt you could make all the cuts still in the frame.

2. You could put a breather on the hose where it ends
or put a longer hose on and hide the breather.

3. You could make or buy a brace that bolts to the upper engine mount
then to the cross tube
or add a brace inside the box that pushes against the
filters holding them on and acting as a brace.

Your Welcome!

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If anyone needs an airbox to practice on, I have a 2002 TBA airbox for sale for $30. PM me...

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Cool! Do you recommend getting another airbox to cut and one to keep stock? I'm a little worried about plastic fatigue over the years.


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If anyone needs an airbox to practice on, I have a 2002 TBA airbox for sale for $30. PM me...



I'll take it if things don't work out with Jaeger.


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Cool! Do you recommend getting another airbox to cut and one to keep stock? I'm a little worried about plastic fatigue over the years.




The only place I'm looking closely at is the front
parts holding the cheese graters.

I'm sure this area could be replaced with a metal
bracket pretty easily.

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If you are clean with the cuts, and make nice rounded corners, you will probably be ok as far as the cheese graters go. But if a crack starts....


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Here was my solution to the carb brace. Available at local hardware store for $2.40 plus tax.
J-Bolt w/nut 3/16 x 1.88 $0.60
Turnbuckle EHK 3/16 x 4 $1.80
The EHK turnbuckle means it has a hook on one end and an eye on the other. Remove the eye end and replace it with the J-hook. Use the nut supplied as a jamb nut. Use the hook end around the carb cross tube and the J hook through the engine mount hole. Requires no tools, finger tighten. Paint to match.

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