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Question 1 on the ballot in Massachusetts:
Should Supermarkets be allowed to carry wine.
Now, my thought process is keep the wine sales for the local packies (packie n. (slang) - A liquor package store).
Thoughts? Opinions?
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Sounds to me like favoritism and anti-capitalism. What are the liquor stores afraid of?
(You know they are the ones behind the initial law banning supermarkets from carrying wine)
While in NC, I could not buy a two liter Pepsi in a liquor store!!! WTF?
Had to go to the supermarket. Waste of time...
"Never underestimate the power of human stupidity" - Robert Heinlein
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A liquor package store
What is a liquor package store?
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MA has too many old blue laws. Like you CAN buy beer on sundays if you are close enough to NH?!? Riiiight...
In Vermont you can get beer and wine at the grociery store. Not a big deal. Still have the packie. But it's been like that for a while. Any of these changes are only bad because they are a change, ya know? Not because of the real issue involved.
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The real reason to keep it out of the grocery stores is to protect the liquor stores. Although I think it's easier for the liquor store attendents to keep the youngsters honest. I don't think it's really fair to expect the grocery checkers to card everyone. How do other states handle that? Every state's laws are different. I thought Minnesota's laws were really odd when I moved there. The package stores (they call them 'off-sale') close at 10:00 p.m., but the bars stay open until 2:00 a.m. You can't buy a 6 pack and take it home after 10, but you can sit in a bar far from home and get stinking drunk late into the night. Doh!  How much sense does that make? Cody
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In Australia we have both, also drive through bottle shops, probably thats why the alcohol intake per capita is one of the highest.
"Pass me another drink".
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Having lived in MA for 39 years and then moving to NH for the last 3...It is my opinion that you should vote YES...PLUS there are ALREADY convienance stores (Not that this applies to them...yet) that sell beer and wine...Little peach (now Tedeshi's) in N Reading has been selling beer and wine for years....and this new law (for now) is limmited to wine...the "scare" ad's the Liquor stores are running are pure BS...I love the statistic the use where DUI cases are 600% higher in states with this law on the books....like having to go to the liquor store some how makes you not drink and drive....there are more liquor stores in N Reading MA then there are Dunkin Dog-nuts...and there are three of those...please these ad's are scare tactics to CYA...and "protect" their monopoly ...statistics are crap and can be twisted to suite any need but I would love to see the data which allowed them to come up with a 600% increase...and how they screwed it around to suite their needs!!!
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Here the state supplies everything to the state booze stores. You can buy beer and wine in any store. Years ago in CA I remember all booze could be sold in stores. You would go into a store and they have a shopping card full of booze on sale. I would vote "yes" Dave 
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Always thought Camelot (the Kennedy state) was liberal, must not be the case with legislation like this.
Sure is nice to see another state government legislating what's good for us. It's comforting taking less responsibility for our own actions or the actions of our children. More time for TV.
98% of all statistics are useless (catch the irony). Vote yes and take back responsibility or the next thing you know the Kennedy's will be forcing you to wear a helmet for your own good....
.... wait a minute, AMA site say's you will wear one. Time to buy a skid-lid to circumvent the law.
To quote FZ. "... your mind is totally controlled, it has been stuffed into our mold, and you will do as you are told, until the rights to you are sold ..."
I apologize, I rarely get moody. Take advice from no one and make your own decision. Ah heck, that's advice! I'll be quiet now.
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My favorite store here in the heart of the country is the ubiquitous "LIQUOR-BEER-AMMO" places out in the rural areas.
Kinda covers it all don't you think?
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"LIQUOR-BEER-AMMO"
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Kinda covers it all don't you think?
Almost. Need to add Livestock Feed
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That reminds me of a store I passed up in NC..... Guns & Vacuum CleanersWTF????
"Never underestimate the power of human stupidity" - Robert Heinlein
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That reminds me of a store I passed up in NC.....
Guns & Vacuum Cleaners
WTF????
Well Phil, you see, the commonality is...one sucks, and the other REALLY sucks when it's pointed at YOU. 
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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That reminds me of a store I passed up in NC.....
Guns & Vacuum Cleaners
WTF????
Yeah, where the hell's the live bait and lingerie?
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That reminds me of a store I passed up in NC.....
Guns & Vacuum Cleaners
WTF????
Yeah, where the hell's the live bait and lingerie?
Well Greg, you see, the commonality is...Both CAN smell like FISH! 
(I can't believe I just wrote that) 
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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On the road between Potsdam and Canton NY there is my personal favorite.
Guns Guitars and Grocery
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On the road between Potsdam and Canton NY there is my personal favorite.
Guns Guitars and Grocery
Well dill, you SEE, the commonality is.....DAVID CROSBY! 
(and...whatever happened to Stills and Nash, ANYWAY?)
(AND...WHY do I HAVE to keep 'splainin' this crap to you guys???!!!)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Crazy a$$ liquor laws. Here in Illinois, we may not have any twisties but I can go to any liquor store, convenience store, grocery store, etc. and buy whatever the "F" I want. These "package" stores have always seemed odd and foreign to me. Don't get it. Regardless of where the stuff is sold the "man" still gets his cut. Not a problem asking anyone for an ID. You serve minors, you lose your license. PERIOD! Just like smokes. It's that simple. Some of our counties have the no alcohol sales 'til noon on Sunday laws but that's about it. Really sux when it is a noon start Bears game. GO BEARS!!!
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That reminds me of a store I passed up in NC.....
Guns & Vacuum Cleaners
WTF????
There's a place in Pownal VT that is "Guns and Mocassins". A little more related I suppose... somehow.
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There's a place in Pownal VT that is "Guns and Mocassins". A little more related I suppose... somehow.
WHAT?! Okay...WHO'S been selling those thare shootin' irons to those INJUNS again???!!!
(hey...never SAID I was "PC", now DID I?!...or of THIS CENTURY, I suppose)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Actually I think it is "old guns and mocassins"
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That reminds me of a store I passed up in NC.....
Guns & Vacuum Cleaners
WTF????
i stopped for breakfast in a place like this in Indiana back in 1995: oatmeal, meat and 3, fireworks... you tell me WTF
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Crazy a$$ liquor laws. Here in Illinois, we may not have any twisties but I can go to any liquor store, convenience store, grocery store, etc. and buy whatever the "F" I want. These "package" stores have always seemed odd and foreign to me. Don't get it. Regardless of where the stuff is sold the "man" still gets his cut. Not a problem asking anyone for an ID. You serve minors, you lose your license. PERIOD! Just like smokes. It's that simple. Some of our counties have the no alcohol sales 'til noon on Sunday laws but that's about it. Really sux when it is a noon start Bears game. GO BEARS!!!
Well thats one way to make the road twist.
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While you're living beyond all your means
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Randy:
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I say vote no! keep the revenue coming to NH.
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The same people wantin' to put firewater in the food store! 
Well HELL Randy! What?! They're not satisfied with only puttin' SLOT MACHINES in 'em???!!!
Ya know...I'm starting to have grave "reservations" about this proposition that Mikey has to vote on...and I don't live anywhere NEAR the Commonwealth of MA, for chrissake!
But being the Democrat that I am, put me FIRMLY in the MAYBE CAMP on this issue!!! 
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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