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#101394 10/01/2006 12:25 PM
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Does one of these run richer than the other? More precisly, if your mixture is good but on the edge of being rich, will one of these throw it over the edge and if so which?

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Not really. Very cold air expands when it is heated/exploded thats why many bikes run stronger or feel stronger at night. The amount of cold (contracted) air turns into more air when it heats.

Your setup will prolly run stronger in the winter. Cept you live in L.A. you have no winter lol.


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dazco #101396 10/01/2006 4:52 PM
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Our gas is colder in the winter.


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Our air is too. Remember to put winter air in your tires...




When is the best time to do this?
Do I work on a specific date?
When the ambient air temperature drops below a set level or just when my tootsies feel cold when I first go to bed?

If I wait until I start using my central heating, it might not be until mid-December. Is this generally considered too late?

Why doesn't Triumph include this info in the manual, I ask myself?

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Winter in L.A. Cal ??? How it look like???

winter is when I'm going home for Christmas and there is -20 celsius and no one using bikes


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I'm talking about the gas supply. I thought they change the formula during summer.

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I don't know about your neck o' the woods, but over here, they only used to do that with diesel.
Stopped it going gloopy in the winter.

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I'm talking about the gas supply. I thought they change the formula during summer.




Last I knew, gasoline formulations were set regionally, even down to the county level. As a transporter, I have to admit I haven't kept up with the issue since our county lost it's oxy fuels exemption, as the folks at the racks keep the products in compliance, but to take a wild guess, due to the climate in LA, I wouldn't think they make a whole lot of significant changes to the gasolines as distributed there, if that's the region you're questioning.

The bad news is it might be difficult to find a good answer to your question, unless you have an in with either a good source at the EPA, or with an LA county gasoline distributor. There are perhaps as many myths surrounding gasolines as there are surrounding motor oils, and the makers and distillers (or "crackers," if you will) aren't genarally too interested in sharing formulation info.

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I'm talking about the gas supply. I thought they change the formula during summer.




We have the same thing here. Fuel is oxygenated for the winter, either MTBE (which maybe isn't used anymore) or 10% ethanol. I haven't noticed any difference in performance.


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dazco #101404 10/01/2006 10:48 PM
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Does one of these run richer than the other? More precisly, if your mixture is good but on the edge of being rich, will one of these throw it over the edge and if so which?



Thought about that, heard on the news that gas prices dropped when suppliers switched to winter gas. Don't know enough about it. I remember back in carbeurator days stalled cars lining the interstate when the temp spiked and everyone still had winter gas. Vapor lock. You run 93 octane, right?

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Grzegorz #101405 10/02/2006 8:33 AM
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Winter in L.A. Cal ??? How it look like???





The sun is a little more to the south and rises a little later. Oh, there aren't quite as many bikinis at the beach and the streets are filled with little brats who are supposed to be in school. Otherwise it's pretty hard to tell when it's winter.

As for gas, some areas cut back on the "oxygenating" additives. This, combined with the higher density of colder air will give you a bit more power after the engine warms up. In really cold areas such as western CO or WY, they add some stuff to collect moisture from the fuel lines and help the gas vaporize.


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