 Newbie question
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 131
Adjunct
|
OP
Adjunct
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 131 |
Am I right to think that removing two baffles from the stock pipes won't give me the same performance upgrade as custom pipes?
Thanks,
mike
|
|
|
Re: Newbie question
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 9,223
Big Bore
|
|
Big Bore
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 9,223 |
"Never underestimate the power of human stupidity" - Robert Heinlein
|
|
|
Re: Newbie question
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,362
Oil Expert
|
|
Oil Expert
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,362 |
It'll make it noisier, and if you rejet to match you'll get a little extra performance out of it, but that's not going to match a set of properly designed aftermarket pipes.
|
|
|
Re: Newbie question
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 131
Adjunct
|
|
OP
Adjunct
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 131 |
Thanks. So if that's the case is there any agreement about which pipes give you the biggest boost? I've read a lot about sound, but not much about differences (if any) in power.
Thanks again!
|
|
|
Re: Newbie question
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,026
Learned Hand
|
|
Learned Hand
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,026 |
Our Liberties We Prize and Our Rights We Will Maintain
If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and will never be.----Thomas Jefferson
|
|
|
Re: Newbie question
|
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 70
Member
|
|
Member
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 70 |
I second the Sceptres!!! Great looking pipes and great sound! JUst can't be out done.
04 Speedy, 904cc 12:1 CR JE pistons, ProCom CDI, Nology coils, Hotwires, lightened flywheel, CR ll's, 18 tooth front sprocket, freak kit, cocktail shaker and scypter exhaust, bobbed rear fender, headwinds headlight, wires in bars, and Scott Oiler
|
|
|
Re: Newbie question
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 12,877
Should be Riding
|
|
Should be Riding
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 12,877 |
You won't be dissapointed with any of the aftermarket pipes performance wise.
Benny
Black & Silver '02
Too many mods to list
Not enough miles ridden
|
|
|
Re: Newbie question
|
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 7,689 Likes: 21
Monkey Butt
|
|
Monkey Butt
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 7,689 Likes: 21 |
Depends on what you want to do. Pipes are not going to get you from mid 14s to 13 in the 1/4. They make a lot more noise and a little more power. Then again, I believe the power is really coming from the rejetting, better air flow and no snorkels.
I am probably wrong, I drilled my pipes, jetted, put in a K&N, and lost my snorkels. I am very happy with my performance. I don't make as much noise as aftermarket though. You will sound a lot louder and Sceptre makes great pipes.
I try to aggravate one person a day. Today may be your day.
|
|
|
Re: Newbie question
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 131
Adjunct
|
|
OP
Adjunct
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 131 |
Thanks. Ordered the Thunderbike's.
|
|
|
Re: Newbie question
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,847
Learned Hand
|
|
Learned Hand
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,847 |
You will love the Thunderpipes. Really feel the difference in the seat of the pants..... a little too loud for my old ears, but I think I may just be a little too sensitive..... I would love to hear them running down the road...
|
|
|
 Re: Newbie question
|
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 58
Member
|
|
Member
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 58 |
I have been wondering about this relationship between noise (which I don't care for, gives me headache), and performance. I removed the first baffles which made it plenty loud for me, modified the snorkel,(cut off the tails), put in a K&N filter and rejetted 130 not that it really needed but it seems to run better. Really the purpose of all the rhetoric is to ask; Can I make this bike run good without all the noise? 
May You Be An Hour In Heaven Before The Devil Knows Your Dead!
|
|
|
Re: Newbie question
|
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 3,971
Loquacious
|
|
Loquacious
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 3,971 |
Just my 2 cents, the answer is "yes."
When it's all said and done, I'm guessing the most additional gain without increasing bore or changing from naturally aspirated carbs to induced air carbs is maybe a 3 or 4 HP increase? While 3 or 4, or 6 or 8 horse are almost always welcomed, it's not like going from a moped to a Hayabusa, if you'll pardon the expression.
I have a 3,300 mile ride coming up in 3 weeks, and I'm going back to 100% stock pipes for the ride. I want the quiet and to be able to hear my audio feed.
|
|
|
Re: Newbie question
|
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 230
Adjunct
|
|
Adjunct
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 230 |
According to the dyno the Thunderbike short pipes added 6 hp to my bike without any other changes. That being said, I put the stock pipes back on this morning and the lack of noise was truly refreshing and I didn't notice any real change in performance.
later,
Hugh
|
|
|
Re: Newbie question
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,457
Learned Hand
|
|
Learned Hand
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,457 |
Quote:
Am I right to think that removing two baffles from the stock pipes won't give me the same performance upgrade as custom pipes?
I noticed a big difference between 2 and 3 baffles removed. Recently put a -2 baffle set on thinking I could fire bike up a little later at night (my driveway is near neighbor's bedroom window), and decided to put my -3 set back on. Biggest difference is top end. I've got a third set I'm going to totally gut and make or buy a long fiberglass wrapped baffle system, a larger diameter TOR, if you will. Rode with someone that had D&Ds a while back, his sounded like when I fired mine up with no silencers, slightly deeper.
|
|
|
|
|
