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modified America Performance vrs. 865 engine
#98008 09/18/2006 12:56 PM
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I have a question about the performance difference between a modified America vrs the stock 865 engine. With all the technical knowledge out there what is the general opinion.

Modified: America
Epco mufflers
AI out
Uni and air box drilled
130,42,TBS,2 shims
Would the performance be the same as a stock 865
or
would the addition of the Freak kit and different jets equal or surpass a stock 865

Re: modified America Performance vrs. 865 engine
JAMES04 #98009 09/18/2006 1:58 PM
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790 vs. 865? Both motors stock are so similar there is really no difference. A bit more torque on the 865 and more horses on the 790. I would be unwilling to bet on a head up drag race between the two stock bikes. 865 pulls a bit harder and the 790 comes on later much stronger.

Pipes, filter and the needles will certainly make it zippier then the stock 865. So, its already past the 865 before the freak.


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Re: modified America Performance vrs. 865 engine
JAMES04 #98010 09/18/2006 2:03 PM
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I agree.

I can take any stock 865 without effort.


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bonnyusa #98011 09/18/2006 3:53 PM
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Do the 865s gain an equal benefit from opening up the exhaust, airbox, and carbs? A post I read earlier implied the 790s got a bigger boost than the 865s.


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RamSound #98012 09/18/2006 3:57 PM
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Don't know for sure but I would love to run against one with similar mods!


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Re: modified America Performance vrs. 865 engine
bonnyusa #98013 09/18/2006 6:15 PM
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i would not worrie about any 865 unless it has a different set of cams

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Frank #98014 09/18/2006 7:46 PM
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i would not worrie about any 865 unless it has a different set of cams.




I'm with Frank on that one. When you start messing around with the internals, that is where you will get the most gains. i.e. cams, port/polish, big bore, engine balancing, larger valves, ect, ect.


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Re: modified America Performance vrs. 865 engine
JAMES04 #98015 09/19/2006 6:58 PM
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Bring on ANY 865cc, I'll make her cry!


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Dinqua #98016 09/22/2006 1:18 AM
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Bring on ANY 865cc, I'll make her cry!




Ditto


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Re: modified America Performance vrs. 865 engine
Dinqua #98017 09/26/2006 10:40 PM
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Pat- Thats not fair racing an 865 against the Magna!


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