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Changed the rear indicators on my America and removed the front ones. Problem is that the rear ones won't work without the front ones in circuit. However I can use something to simulate having the front ones in circuit. For example I can put a resistor in the circuit somehwere and it will work.
The question is what rating reisistor would I use to make sure I don't cook anything ??
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They say something like 40 watts if i recall, but that sounds hight to me. you could try a couple 10 watt power resistors and just let em hang out while you test em. see if they get very hot. I beliebe something like 6 owm, so 10's would probably be fine. a couple 10 watt/10 ohm power resistors will cost you about a buch so they'll either work or give you an idea whether you need to go much higher as far as wattage. If you do need something on the order of 40 watts they then become sorta expensive, so some 10's would be cheap to try. whatever you get they will probably get hot to some degree so you'll wanna put them somewhere where they don't cause problems. of course you could also just use bulbs and have them stashed somewhere out of sight like the headlight shell.
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By the way, are you sure thats legal where you are? i would think all states probably require fronts and rears.
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Thanks !! Pretty much confirms what I was thinking. As for legality, well, it's a long story but back only is better than none right ?
Thanks again.
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Try replacing your flasher unit for one designed for LED's. Easier than mucking about with resistors.
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Well I'm hearin ya but resistors cost 6 cents each from Dick Smith. So total cost for this mod should be about 12 cents. But yeah. Could be a much neater option. You got a good source in Brisso ?
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Try replacing your flasher unit for one designed for LED's. Easier than mucking about with resistors.
You don't happen to know if the signal minder is like that do ya? i'd like to go to LEDs and if i could plug n' play i'd be more likely to do it.
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It will take more than just resistors. You will need to get the voltage regulated somehow (zener diodes) or you could easily end up frying your wiring harness. You cannot just load it down, the power has to be disapated somewhere, think Prince of Darkness. If you just put the excess load onto resistors, they WILL get very hot and very likely end up melting all your wiring.
Take Sandman's advice, get a LED regulator kit and relays. If you don't know how to do this stuff, it is better left to those that do. You could even possibly end up with the bike catching fire if yiou mess up electrics. Hmm, wiring burning underneath the gastank....not a good mental picture.
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Well I'm hearin ya but resistors cost 6 cents each from Dick Smith. So total cost for this mod should be about 12 cents. But yeah. Could be a much neater option. You got a good source in Brisso ?
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If you were really set on using resistors you'd need to spend more than 6 cents on em - the amount of power disapation you're talking about'd involve probably 2 x 20Watt ceramic resistors to replace each light. Then you'd have to mount em someplace where they wouldn't melt anything and wouldn't smash themselves from the vibration.
Any half-decent auto shop'll have LED flashers... there's a big Auto Barn across the road from Brisbane Triumph out at Slack's Creek> Just make sure you get one with the matching pin layout for our bikes, as there's several layouts for 3 pin flashers.
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Dazco, I have all 4 signals as LED now, and a signal minder. I removed my flasher dashboard light and they work fine. I'm waiting on Sandmann's idea for a bulb replacement with diodes to try that out. I could just cut and solder in some diodes, but I want to see what his mod is like first. Otherwise they work fine, and since my fronts are down on the forks, I can see them flashing anyway...
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This is what I did and it works perfect, go to any auto parts store and bring your current flasher, find one that looks the same and is a 2 prong not 3 and it should say no warning or somthing along them lines, It will plug in 2 diff ways so one would be for the front and the other for the rear. mine flash the same speed and stock and all is good. if u have a hard time finding it let me knwo and i will see if i can get u a part number
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Dazco,
How bright are your LED flashers compared to the stock ones? Which LEDs did you buy?
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Dazco, I have all 4 signals as LED now, and a signal minder. I removed my flasher dashboard light and they work fine. I'm waiting on Sandmann's idea for a bulb replacement with diodes to try that out. I could just cut and solder in some diodes, but I want to see what his mod is like first. Otherwise they work fine, and since my fronts are down on the forks, I can see them flashing anyway...
Yes, i just found that out after emailing them. I'm excited now !
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How bright are your LED flashers compared to the stock ones? Which LEDs did you buy?
We're talking about the dash indicators here in case you're talking about the 4 flashers. I didn't replace the flashers, at least not yet. I used the 6 LED clusters as decribed in the beginning of this thread to replace the dash bulbs. They are so much brighter it's stupid. They can be seen with total ease in the brightest sunlight you can imagine. probably 10 times as bright as the stock bulb or even the sylvania replacemnt.
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by the way Benny, what do you mean by " I removed my flasher dashboard light and they work fine" ?
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Arrrrg..........Tommv, i was getting this thread mixed up with the other one, so if my reply makes you scratch your head you know why.
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Yeah I was thinking turn signals, as in all 4 corners of the bike  I think we're all getting the threads mixed up!! I have the stock dashboard lights in right now... so I was getting weirdness with the new signals, so I took out the flasher dashboard light, and now all my TURN signals work fine.
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Ok Benny.....let me get this straight......you have a signal minder and all 4 signals are LED, and the dashboard indicator is also LED, correct? By the way, can you link me to the LED signal bolb you got? I have some in mind but i'd like to see what you used. Also, how do you like them.....bright enough?
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Almost...
All 4 turn signals are Kuryakyn mini bullets, ball milled.
Dash has STOCK bulbs in it, with signal indicator removed untill I get the diodes in.
Signal minder WITH extra features wired in.
As for the signals, I like em, but they all have smoked lenses, but the fronts glow amber and rears red. I'm wondering if a clear lense would allow them to be a tad brighter? Or should I get amber and red lenses?
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I had smoked then clear. the clears are definatly brighter. Just makes sense they would be. Both were used with amber bulbs. I think if you use amber or red lenses with white bulbs they will be the brightest, but don't quote me. Do you think the LEDs you got are less bright than standard bulbs? by the way, are you sure the LED dash indicator will allow the signals to work correctly or are you gonna use diodes or what?
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Gonna use diodes...
Here's what Matt has to say about LED's and frankly I believe him
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Basically if you want to get the greatest amount of the outputted light from a LED to make it through the filter you should use the coloured LED closest to the filter's colour.
So I'm thinking in reverse, I HAVE red and amber LEDs, so I should put red and amber lenses on.
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