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Crisis over, actually, it was more like handbags than crisis. http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=36988Incidently, did anyone watch the Hungarian Grand Prix this weekend. Best race of the year by far. Edge of the seat stuff......absolulety brilliant. So good I watched it twice.
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That's good, that'd have been the last thing that F1 needed.
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Humm! I scanned that article but it didn't say a word 'bout not usin' FRENCH-BUILT TIRES at the "Brickyard".  But I have to agree with the manufacturers. What good is racing if not for the advancement of techologies?! I suppose F1 races would be "more competitive" and this halt in progress would make for some closer finishes(always popular with the crowds)....BUT....if F1 goes the NASCAR route(restrictor-plates anyone?!...wasn't Richard Petty in his SuperBird circling Daytona far faster back some 30 years ago than these Prima Donnas are TODAY)...in MY VIEW...why RACE AT ALL! OH, that's right. Everythings "personality-driven" nowdays. (actually I couldn't care less if Junior[Dale, that is] wins or crashes because there's "bad-blood" between him and some other Good Ol' Boy!) If I follow racing at ALL it's because I appreciate NEW IDEAS in engineering. Cheers, Dwight
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Gone in 2007 and beyond. F1 will be a single tire race series. Bridgestones.
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OH, that's right. Everythings "personality-driven" nowdays.
Not in F1. All the drivers are ugly boring gits. And even worse (for US fans), FOREIGN 
Im all for pushing the technology envelope, but the cost of F1 has to be brought under control. The cost of development in both engines and aerodynamisc is at the point of being imoral. When a car company is spending over $300 million per season for 18 races that is getting a bit much. And that does not take into account the opperating budget of just competing in the races, transportation for team, crew, equipment and team lodging. And what teams spend on hospitality is unbelievable. And i havent mentioned salaries.
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Hey Mark, Watching it twice wouldn't have anything to do with fellow Brit Jenson Button winning his first F1 race, would it?  The rain did play havoc on the teams tire choices and the drivers ability to keep the car from spinning. Bridgestone certainly got smoked in the tire wars for wet conditions. The Hungaroring always seems to produce something unusual, and seeing Honda win was certainly out of the ordinary. They've had a pretty miserable season up to that point. As far as the F1 regualtions goes, I'd hate to see them turn into another NASCAR. Formula One has always been about cars with cutting edge technology.
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Watching it twice wouldn't have anything to do with fellow Brit Jenson Button winning his first F1 race, would it?
Oh you spotted that did you.  Started in 14 place and came through the crowd in the wet. Brilliant. Hopefully he can bag a few more wins. Havent had a good brit driver to support since 'Our Nige' retired.
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As far as the F1 regualtions goes, I'd hate to see them turn into another NASCAR.
I agree, but i dont think they would ever get to the NASCAR levels. The teams would break away. There has been talk about the teams breaking away from the FIA for a while now. For the moment all the teams seem to be happy but who know what will happen next week. F1 politics, I love it.
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The rain did play havoc on the teams tire choices and the drivers ability to keep the car from spinning
The overhead shot from the helicopter showing the drivers trying to keep the cars on the dry line were incredible. Eye of the needle stuff at 190 mph.
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Incidently, did anyone watch the Hungarian Grand Prix this weekend. Best race of the year by far. Edge of the seat stuff......absolulety brilliant. So good I watched it twice.
Certainly was edge of the seat - so exciting I only fell asleep twice instead of the usual four times!! At least this time it wasn't decided by the pit crews!
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so exciting I only fell asleep twice instead of the usual four times
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At least this time it wasn't decided by the pit crews!
Amen, pit stop overtaking sure is boring. And one has to admit, Ferrari and Schuey have made an art from out of it.
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At least this time it wasn't decided by the pit crews!
Well, in a way it was. Alonso DNFed when his wheelnut on the right rear came loose. I haven't heard though if that was a straight mechanical failure, or a pit crew error.
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Havent had a good brit driver to support since 'Our Nige' retired.
I still look at what the current Chair of the British Racing Drivers Club is doing....A certain Mr D Hill.... I would call him a good Brit Driver...
I didn't watch the race - I was Hippy Tripping (no not like that - a little run over here to the Hippy Capital) so I've only read the reports in the papers, but our boy did good. Local to here you know...
F1 rule regulations and politics have always been like handbags at dawn. There's always been a set of teams threatening to break away. In the 80's there were 2 levels - the Turbo 3.5 V12's (I think - I was only small) and the normally aspiirated (ie no turbo) and while all could get points in all the races the non-turbo teams only raced for the other "championship" - I can't remember the name of the cup they got at the end of the season. As it was mainly the smaller teams in this it ment they got a name check more often than these days.... It just seems since those days the threatened breakaway has surfaced more often...
So they've all re-signed the Concord Agreement..They've agreed to use the same tyres....they've agreed now to keep the same engines next year..... They'll find something else to argue about in a couple of weeks....
But I'm just a previous fan....I kinda lost interest after Damon retired...
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At least this time it wasn't decided by the pit crews!
Well, in a way it was. Alonso DNFed when his wheelnut on the right rear came loose. I haven't heard though if that was a straight mechanical failure, or a pit crew error.
There was an quick interview with Alonso during the race when he said it was a drive shaft that failed. (Whether he was just being diplomatic or not?)
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Found this on a Goggle News search.... LONDON, Aug 7 (Reuters) - Renault say a damaged wheel nut caused Fernando Alonso's retirement while he was leading Sunday's Hungarian Grand Prix. The Formula One champion's failure to finish, his first in more than a year, left the title battle finely balanced with Ferrari's Michael Schumacher 10 points adrift with five races remaining. Engineering head Pat Symonds said in a team review of the weekend's action that a safety mechanism holding the wheel nut on had failed to disengage at Alonso's second pitstop. "That meant the wheel nut was damaged as it was removed, and did not re-attach correctly as the new wheel went on. "The reassuring fact is that this is a simple problem to fix, and doesn't put the exceptional reliability of the R26 in any doubt. We will have a modified solution in place for Turkey," he said. The Turkish Grand Prix in Istanbul is on Aug 27. ------------ So is that another way of saying the pit crewman screwed up when he took off the wheel nut?
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ok boys and girls there was first ever polish driver in F1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and was 7th
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In the 80's there were 2 levels - the Turbo 3.5 V12's (I think - I was only small)
Remember that well. The Turbo cars were 1600cc Turbos (mostly 4 cylinders, with a few V6's in the mix) the normally aspirtated cars were 3500cc and were unlimited in cylinder configeration.
Incidently. The BMW megatron engine, a 4 cylinder twin turbo 1600cc was dyno tested at over 1200 hp.....WOW!
Damon Hill. Yes another good driver from old blighty. But i never got behind him like Nigel. I think the alure of Nigel Mansell was that he was an ordinary bloke who worked his arse off to get into F1. Not taking anything away from Damon he did become a World Champion, but he came form a very privaledge backgound and had a name that opened a lot of doors for him.
I heart they are trying to get damon to committ to the GP Masters Series. They dont show that over here, which is a real bummer. I would love to watch that.
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Well, in a way it was
Yeah, but give the guy some credit. He got a ten place grid spot penalty for changing the Engine during the weekend. And then came from 14 spot on the grid in the pouring rain on a track that is notorious for being impossible to overtake on. And in his defence, only one driver ahead of him on the track retired (Alonso) and at the time of his retirement Button was catching him a 2 seconds a lap. So chances are he would have caught him and past him.
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ok boys and girls there was first ever polish driver in F1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and was 7th
Yes there was. And he did a great job for his first race. Shame he got disqualified for having an underweight car at the end of the race. Under the circumstances i would have liked to see the race Stewards turn a blind eye to that one, but rules are rules. But Kubica certainly did a good job this weekend, and it looks like he will have the race seat for the rest of the season. Now that BMW have said goodbye to Villenueve.
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In the 80's there were 2 levels - the Turbo 3.5 V12's (I think - I was only small)
Remember that well. The Turbo cars were 1600cc Turbos (mostly 4 cylinders, with a few V6's in the mix) the normally aspirtated cars were 3500cc and were unlimited in cylinder configeration.
Incidently. The BMW megatron engine, a 4 cylinder twin turbo 1600cc was dyno tested at over 1200 hp.....WOW!
Damon Hill. Yes another good driver from old blighty. But i never got behind him like Nigel. I think the alure of Nigel Mansell was that he was an ordinary bloke who worked his arse off to get into F1. Not taking anything away from Damon he did become a World Champion, but he came form a very privaledge backgound and had a name that opened a lot of doors for him.
I heart they are trying to get damon to committ to the GP Masters Series. They dont show that over here, which is a real bummer. I would love to watch that.
They don't show it over here either.
OK so got the numbers the wrong way round... I was less than 10 at the time.....and I struggle to remember last week half the time, so the fact I remember the numbers at all is a shock!!!
Damon - how can a bloke who when his dad died left the family bankrupt be from a priviliged background? To fund his racing he worked in London as a dispatch rider. OK he had the "name" but some people were scared of that. When he hd his first F1 race in the Pink and Blue Brabham he was the last one running but he'd done better than the woman he was replacing (Not that I have problems with women in F1 but she was there because she was privileged and had very little talent.Oh yeah.....she was blonde and attractive. I've seen better girlie drivers in lower formulae but they couldn't have gone on to a catwalk after a GP unlike Amati {Ok I've been off site to find her name...} )
Rant over....! 
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Ooops, I stand corrected. I remember he was a Despatch rider. Didnt know his family we bankrupt. But i do think his name opened doors for him.
Women in F1, there has only been a few. I would like to see a few more get in and try out. I think a great marketing strategy for F1 in America would be be get Danica Patrick in an F1 car. For F1 to really succed over here its needs someone Americans can get behind. Scott Speed is trying but i dont think any one over here knows who he is. Patrick at the moment is a good selling brand, and shes not such a bad driver either.
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It also didn't help when Scott Speed got wrecked in THE FIRST CURVE in the USGP, what a fricking tragedy that was!
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Yes, Scott Speed could have done without that in his home race. He seems like a nice lad, always interviews very well and doesn't come across like some jack the lad (although he did tell David Coulthard to F**k off earlier in the year, but we wont hold that against him, after all, DC is Scottish  ) and he is doing very well i think concidering the equipment he's given. I hope he gets to stay in F1 next year but already there are rumours that he may not get to keep his race seat for next year. (No offense, both implied or otherwise was intended to Scottish people during the writting of this message)
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ok boys and girls there was first ever polish driver in F1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and was 7th
Yeah, but he was disqualified for driving a car that was under the wieght limit. Drove a heck of a race though, I was impressed.
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I think a great marketing strategy for F1 in America would be be get Danica Patrick in an F1 car.
Please no! She's the Anna Kournikova of racecars....Never wins, but gets her name mentioned everywhere. F1 will neve be popular here as long as NASCAR is around. American race fans are like Harley riders, performance doesn't matter and turns are just something in between cruising down the straight away.
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F1 will neve be popular here as long as NASCAR is around. American race fans are like Harley riders, performance doesn't matter and turns are just something in between cruising down the straight away.
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Which one, NASCAR or H-D?
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