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If elections changed anything, Governments would abolish them
Sounds like something Jim Hacket would say. Or would that be Sir Humphrey.
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If elections changed anything, Governments would abolish them
Sounds like something Jim Hacket would say. Or would that be Sir Humphrey.
Ooh bugger.....how did that happen. hey, at least i aggree with myself.  Dat dont appen much
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If elections changed anything, Governments would abolish them. Show me an honest politician and I'll show you a Speedmaster that's better than an America ! 
To which I must ask, Whose fault is that?
We all like to think of ourselves as rugged individualists. But when push comes to shove most of us are sheep who do what we are told. Worst of all, a lot of us become unpaid agents of whoever is controlling the agenda by enforcing the current dogma on the few rugged individualists who actually exist.
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Pete: Wait a minute. Who elected you leader of this outfit?
Ulyssses Everett McGill: Well Pete, I figured it should be the one with the capacity for abstract thought. But if that ain't the consensus view, then hell, let's put it to a vote.
Pete: Suits me. I'm voting for yours truly.
Ulyssses Everett McGill: Well I'm voting for yours truly too.
[Everett and Pete look at Delmar for the deciding vote]
Delmar: Okay... I'm with you fellas.
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I rest my case......
Can you imagine working for a company that has a little more
than 500 employees and has the following statistics:
* 29 have been accused of spousal abuse
* 7 have been arrested for fraud
* 19 have been accused of writing bad checks
* 117 have directly or indirectly bankrupted at least 2 businesses
* 3 have done time for assault
* 71 cannot get a credit card due to bad credit
* 14 have been arrested on drug-related charges
* 8 have been arrested for shoplifting
* 21 are currently defendants in lawsuits
* 84 have been arrested for drunk driving in the last year...
Can you guess which organization this is?
It's the 535 members of the United StatesCongress.
The same group that crank out hundreds of new laws each year designed to
keep the rest of us in line.
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Well Brummie, You HAVE to realize that THIS phenomenon is akin to "the kids" out there being "especially impressed" about the horrors of alcohol and drug abuse by those who have "lived through it".(evidently you know, people who have never been there "don't know what they're talkin' about" when it comes to "certain things")  So NATURALLY, people who constantly BREAK the laws, should WRITE 'EM!  You "gots" a problem with that, buddy?!  Cheers, Dwight (and..WHAT the hell do ya mean, "the rest of us"???...since when does the U.S.Congress have jurisdiction over Old Blighty's Midlands, ANYWAY???)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Since George Bush started using Tony Blair as a ventriliquists dummy !
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Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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"Lighten up, Francis."
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I'm sure the British Parliment is filled with saints.
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And I am sure you guys believe the WTC towers were brought down by the Feds. It seems to follow your lines of "reason".
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VERY WELL SAID!! If the US is such a rotten place, why does everyone want to live here? Beside that, politics are going to swing back in the US-they always have and always will.
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"Lighten up, Francis."
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And I am sure you guys believe the WTC towers were brought down by the Feds. It seems to follow your lines of "reason".
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And I am sure you guys believe the WTC towers were brought down by the Feds. It seems to follow your lines of "reason".
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It's that whole hysterical paranoia thing. You gotta be a right winger to understand  .
(Or know the kind, anyway )
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This thread reminds me of something my grandmother once told me... when in a social setting there are three things you don't discuss (1) religion (2) sex, or (3) politics. If you have to ask why... you haven't been reading.
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Like I have said before, in a two party system if Mickey Mouse ran against Minny Mouse and there would be a great 3rd party candidate our president would be a mouse at the end of the election.
We have the government we deserve and at this time we deserve very little because we demand nothing from those we pay to represent us.
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"Lighten up, Francis."
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And I am sure you guys believe the WTC towers were brought down by the Feds. It seems to follow your lines of "reason".
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It's that whole hysterical paranoia thing. You gotta be a right winger to understand .
(Or know the kind, anyway )
But I'm half right-winger! (fiscally) I suppose you gotta be 100% to understand. I've never been a fan of conspiracy theories. I prefer Ockham's razor.
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How on earth anyone can actually look up to and be inspired by these monkeys, is really beyond me.
Well Bedouin, the problem is that they are the ones we have chosen to lead. It doesn't mean they are smart, well informed, correct in their judgment or even honest. But they were elected. As a former elected official who knows a lot of former and current elected officials, I will say that most, though certainly not all, are doing the best they can. If we disagree with what is going on we have a right, even a duty, to voice that disagreement. If no one is representing our opinion then we should support candidates who will, or even run for office ourselves (that is how I got involved, they just pi$$ed me off) But if only “monkeys†run for, or are elected to, public office then the person responsible is the one we see in the mirror each morning.
Honest disagreement and debate is what a free society needs to remain free. Unfortunately, some have found that their arguments do not carry sufficient force, or resonate with enough people, for them to win the day and they have resorted to other means. Ad hominum attacks, twisting the facts, demonizing their opponents, rewriting history and outright lies. While I agree with the old saying “Politics ain’t beanbag,†certain practices are corrosive to society and the democratic process. When partisans start saying that their domestic opposition is worse than terrorists, when they start associating with avowed foreign enemies or cheering on terrorists who attack a democratic ally, they need to be disavowed by all sides and excluded from the political process.
As much as I dislike the politics of some elected officials, past and present, I will not assume they are evil and corrupt just because I disagree with them. Ascribing evil motives and negative personal characteristics to those with whom I disagree poisons the debate and makes honest discussion impossible. Unfortunately in this media saturated environment some politicians have had great success doing just that. Every time a prominent politician goes on TV and howls that those with whom he disagrees are not merely wrong but guilty of all manner of knavery, treachery, hatred, and corruption they are debasing the democratic process and damaging the republic.
Ladisney,
Your mentioned (and obvious) experience and understanding of the mechanics of politics has always gained (and held) my respect.
You have put forth a well-crafted piece (quoted) that I consider makes so much sense and yet, it skillfully avoids the substance of my somewhat rhetoric question.
UN Assembley - Security Council - 1963, question posed to [I think] Andrei Gromyko - Ammbassador to the USSR:
Does the USSR Sir, have nuclear weapon installations based on Cuba, YES or NO?
Oooops, wrong era, sorry.
I'll try again with my own question...
Would you Sir, tell your son that you would like him to one day be a "great man", just like the current leader (or many others in the world today, for that matter)... YES or NO?
Methinks not, for obvious reasons. He is not a talker, nor a thinker and his "pitch" gravitates at such a low altitude, it seems to be aimed at people's feet, rather than their brain.
It therefore amazes me that he actually has such fanatical supporters.
Is he a role model to them? Does he inspire them as a great man? Is his intellect of a calibre that creates confidence. Are his results that spectacular?
Or is it just the necessity for some people to "belong" somewhere?
These are the questions I ask myself.
One can, of course, "carbon copy" (or is it "copy-paste" nowadays?) these questions in relation to several leaders across the world.
Having said that and before people make any assumptions, I had a lot of respect for this man's father.
For what it's worth, please forgive the term "monkeys" but I have found that the use of bananas (or implied future stock thereof) does actually produce results and I personally abuse this notion consistently, even if it's ... just for a laugh.
Bedouin.
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Some very well educated and well spoken men and women have run for office and in some cases they win. Those very same so-called educated and well spoken men and women do not always have what it takes to lead. Winning a Dale Carnegie contest does not a leader make. In times like ours it takes much more than being a ketchup magnate (via marriage) who speaks well but runs from a fight like a bully after his first bloody nose from an honest fighter. It takes more than a man whose sole interst in life is to tell us all that evolved climate change is "global warming" that we caused and that we better do something about. We dont need idiots to try and have us focus on BS ideas like global warming and "globalization" At this time and in this place we needed a simple honest man who is doing the best he can to fulfill his oath to defend and protect us from all enemies foreign and domestic. It seems like lots of liberals (worldwide) seem to think that George Dubya is supposed to do whatever they think is in their best interests. Thats where they are wrong. George must do only that which is in the best interests of the USA per his elected duty. He is not the president of Europe or Turkey or Greece. He is the president of the US whether Dwight or Bedouin or any other misinformed left wing bleeding heart idealogue likes it or not. George was elected by a majority of votes the second time around and both times by electoral majority no matter how slight. Those who cry about the hangin chads can bite us all. Those of us who campaigned for him and manned the phones, walked the streets and passed the fliers were able to outdo, out manauever, outwit and win despite a media that hates George, hates America (other than Fox), despite most of Europe that hated him as well. We won because we did not want a slick willie Dale Carnegie special like al bore or john skeery to lead us. We wanted someone with some cojones. We got it. We dont care who likes it or not in Europe or Turkey or France or anyplace else. We would much rather have a "monkey" for a president than a yellow belly cowardly well spoken internationalist anyday. Keep your well spoken internationalists. If you get in the ring with a fighter the fighter will come out bleeding but victorious when the opposition is tantamount to thousands of well spoken, educated elitists who think they know what is best for the world. He is not your leader Bed. He is our leader. That you would intimate he should be is perhaps a backhanded compliment but he is not. I dont even know who the president of Greece is nor do I care. Should eye? Should you? Whoever he is he will not be remembered. George will have a very good legacy when history is written much as Abraham Lincoln. Time will tell. History will show him to be a tough leader who took the high road and made the hard decisions in the early days of WW3 when all the cowards worldwide took the low road and stuck their heads in the sand for comfort. So remember push come to shove George is our President and he is...  And Always remember Bedouin that it was...  That caused this....  And the world said . What? LOL.
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Winning a Dale Carnegie contest does not a leader make.
...note to self...go to Barnes and Noble...buy a copy of "How To Win Friends And Influence People"...send to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave...oh, forget it...this will be a waste of my time...I hear the guy doesn't read much...
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In times like ours it takes much more than being a ketchup magnate (via marriage) who speaks well
...KERRY "speaks well", Kevin??? When? Where? I MUST have missed THAT along the way, somewhere...
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...THREE Purple Hearts...okay, ONE was questionable, MAYBE....
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...YEP! The gentleman COULDN'T be more "simple", ALRIGHT...
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who is doing the best he can to fulfill his oath to defend and protect us from all enemies foreign and domestic.
...evidently ANYBODY who disagrees with Mr. Bush...
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We wanted someone with some cojones.
...Well, I DO hear that he can speak a little Spanish...I have to admit he's one up on ME in THIS case....BUT in MY defense, I think my ENGLISH is "a little" BETTER than his...
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Whoever he is he will not be remembered. George will have a very good legacy when history is written much as Abraham Lincoln. Time will tell.
...ABRAHAM LINCOLN????????!!!!!!!!!! Do I EVEN have to say a WORD HERE???!!!...(but I will)...The closest Mr.Bush will EVER COME to writing something along the lines of, "..a government, of The People, by The People, and for The People, shall not perish from the earth", will be that time he scrawled something about.."you're either with us or again' us", which I doubt HE even wrote, but SO SIMPLISTICALLY asinine, that I wouldn't put it past him...
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...YEP! 2008....The END of an ERROR...
Cheers,
Dwight
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I'm sure the British Parliment is filled with saints.
Of course !
To be a saint you gotta be deceased - and by the way those dumbos act they have to communicate through a medium !
Our parliament is just about as corrupt as most others except we can't get at the information as readily as you can.
you have a constitution. The EEC rejected one because it was written by the FRENCH. That hasn't stopped them sneaking the legislation through the back door so we can't even vote on it ! So much for westminster the mother of democracy and freedom.
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Did anyone know that the President had a bike? He rides a custom Desperado Chopper 
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Well, I'm off to Indy for the race ( free tickets, hospitality services, pit and garage passes, breakfast and lunch, and some other stuff, but I dont recall all of it at the moment ), but the conversation looks to be moving along.
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Can you imagine working for a company that has a little more
than 500 employees and has the following statistics:
* 29 have been accused of spousal abuse
* 7 have been arrested for fraud
* 19 have been accused of writing bad checks
* 117 have directly or indirectly bankrupted at least 2 businesses
* 3 have done time for assault
* 71 cannot get a credit card due to bad credit
* 14 have been arrested on drug-related charges
* 8 have been arrested for shoplifting
* 21 are currently defendants in lawsuits
* 84 have been arrested for drunk driving in the last year...
Can you guess which organization this is?
It's the 535 members of the United StatesCongress.
The same group that crank out hundreds of new laws each year designed to
keep the rest of us in line.
Not that it would be too hard to believe, it's just not COMPLETELY true... This is from an e-mail floated around in the 90's. Check out the reality: snopes.com
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I was just answering the comment you made. George W Bush would not be my first choice but the ones I would have chosen ahead of him were not on the ballot. George W Bush does have some qualities I admire. Unlike the previous occupant of that office he is not driven by polls, he is willing to take unpopular actions and positions if he thinks they are important enough to fight over. I think he, like many of the great leaders of the past, is willing to do what needs to be done even in the face of opposition from the glitterati and our so called allies. I think he, like Reagan, will be judged much better by history than he is by the partisan press. Throughout history the great leaders of democracies were often despised by large portions of the population. I recently reread Winston Churchill’s work “A History of the English Speaking Peoples,†and was reminded that many of those who we now consider great were often driven from office by their opposition.
George W Bush is not a great speaker, because of that he is often ridiculed. But, he is not swayed by the passions of the moment or the vagaries of opinion polls, nor is he easily intimidated, that is why he is hated by those oppose him. If, in the end, he is proven right about Iraq, he will be counted among our great or near great presidents. If he is proven wrong, or he caves in and turns Iraq over to Al Qaeda, he will be a failure. Reagan was called the same things by the same people. The lefties in America and Europe hated him with a white hot fervor. But in the end he was proven right. The way to defeat the Soviet Union was to stand up to them, not to acquiesce in their attempt spread the tyranny of Communism. Ask those who lived in Eastern Europe about Reagan, Thatcher and Pope John Paul II. Twenty years from now there may well be people living in the Middle East saying the same things about Bush and Blair. It’s amazing how Reagan’s reputation has soared since he left office considering what was said about him while he was in office. There is a good chance Bush’s will too.
We all like to think of ourselves as rugged individualists. But when push comes to shove most of us are sheep who do what we are told. Worst of all, a lot of us become unpaid agents of whoever is controlling the agenda by enforcing the current dogma on the few rugged individualists who actually exist.
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Ladisney,
Interesting assessment, some of the points you made are worth bearing in mind.
Thank you.
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No fear my militant dandies, Bush is at the helm...
"I've reminded the prime minister-the American people, Mr. Prime Minister, over the past months that it was not always a given that the United States and America would have a close relationship." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., June 29, 2006
"We shouldn't fear a world that is more interacted." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., June 27, 2006
"I think -- tide turning -- see, as I remember -- I was raised in the desert, but tides kind of -- it's easy to see a tide turn -- did I say those words?" --George W. Bush, asked if the tide was turning in Iraq, Washington, D.C., June 14, 2006
President Bush: "Peter. Are you going to ask that question with shades on?"
Peter Wallsten of the Los Angeles Times: "I can take them off."
Bush: "I'm interested in the shade look, seriously."
Wallsten: "All right, I'll keep it, then."
Bush: "For the viewers, there's no sun."
Wallsten: "I guess it depends on your perspective."
Bush: "Touche.
--An exchange with legally blind reporter Peter Wallsten, to whom Bush later apologized, Washington, D.C., June 14, 2006 (Watch video clip)
"I tell people, let's don't fear the future, let's shape it." --George W. Bush, Omaha, Neb., June 7, 2006
"Trying to stop suiciders -- which we're doing a pretty good job of on occasion -- is difficult to do. And what the Iraqis are going to have to eventually do is convince those who are conducting suiciders who are not inspired by Al Qaeda, for example, to realize there's a peaceful tomorrow." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., May 24, 2006
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"Lighten up, Francis."
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"Fool us twice... can't get fooled again."  He's nothing if not entertaining.
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Those of us who campaigned for him and manned the phones, walked the streets and passed the fliers were able to outdo, out manauever, outwit and win despite a media that hates George, hates America (other than Fox), despite most of Europe that hated him as well.
No Kevin, believe it or not, most of us don't HATE him like you on the far right seem to think, it's just that we think he is a far cry from the right person for the job. Had the Republicans had the balls to push McCain forward as the right candidate, instead of trying to have the novelty of having a Bush Father/Son record, I think the Republicans would be amazed at the difference in public opinion today about the job the GOP is doing. And, as far as the comment about hating Bush and hating America, please stop trying to insinuate that if you don't like Bush or don't agree with the current policies that you are somehow "hating America", because that is such an old and worn out load of assinine BS it's sickening! Perhaps, if you stepped out of your narrow world for a while and actually looked around, you'd see that maybe those you deem as hating America, are simply those who don't have the arrogance to believe that the US is the only country in the world that "gets it" and the rest of the world is simply wrong, hates America or is misguided. As Bedouin mentioned, Europe was dealing with terrorism on a scale we can't imagine (daily carbombings, kidnappings, etc...) while we were still thinking white Don Johnson suits were cool. Maybe you've missed it, but on MANY occasions the current administration has praised the various European countries for being key in breaking terror cells, where do you suppose these countries (soft as they are on terrorists it appears according to the far right) got this experience in infiltrating and breaking terror cells?(and please don't tell me it was from us!)
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Oh, by the way Kevin, you might want to find another network, apparently, they have had the auadicity to start questioning the wisdom of Iraq now (I know, their complete lack of Patriotism and obvious hatred of America is sickening, I practically wretch when Bill O'reilly comes on). Yeah, it seems they have somehow woken up to just how hamstrung we are now that Iran has loomed on the horizon as the enemy that W was warning us about (except that he was talking about Iraq, maybe he just can't spell, and got Iraq and Iran confused huh) Yeah, seems that not only did we remove the major counterbalance to the extremists fundamentalist Islamo-fascists in Iran when we took down Saddam, but we also tied our hands so completely with trying to not only win against Al Queda in Iraq, but also now trying to prevent a civil war from breaking out at any moment, that now we can't really do much of anything with Iran. They practically laugh in our faces (along with Kim Jong Il in N. Korea) on a daily basis! And how about all the love coming out of the Iraqi Shiite population in Iraq now after the pummeling that Lebanon is taking. Hmmm, that's funny, I thought the Shiites were the good Muslims in Iraq that supported us, since we liberated them from Saddam. Seems they don't like us so much lately! And no, that's not some whiny leftwing tripe Kevin, even Gen. Pace just got done testifying before Congress that Iraq is potentially on the edge of Civil War (or does he hate America too, probably a defeatist deep down huh?)
See Kevin, you might look at Beduoin, Dwight, or I as those who simply just hate W, or America (don't really care since it's so simply wrong!), maybe we just don't like someone trying to shove a tablespoon of crap down our throats while they tell us it's chocolate pudding!
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"Lighten up, Francis."
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Traitor!!!  (Sorry, Kevin, I didn't mean to respond for you. )
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I cannot believe you all are still sparing over this after six days. The last time I checked the weather channel it was sunny and warm throughout the country. Why are you not out riding? I just got back myself, sunburn and all. And remember. Presidents, at least the last 5, are only in office to provide SNL material for their skits.... 
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No worries FJ, I realize deep down what a bad American I am. As I type, I'm already tying on the blindfold, lighting my cigarette, and chambering a round to end my sadly misguided life.... 
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Boy,
How fast we have forgotten the Bill and Hilary show and the eight miserable years they put us through.
Seems like history just started 6 years ago once GW was elected.
John 06 America Mulberry\Silver
"Seemed Like A Good Idea At The Time"
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Hey Doug, Trying to deflect this group is like beating yourself in the head with a hammer! Typically, it goes on ad nauseam until we lock the thread. Nice try and I agree. A wonderful day in South Florida and hope you had the same!
"Never underestimate the power of human stupidity" - Robert Heinlein
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i put on 200 miles today, 10 days post knee scope. a lovely hurt, it is. cat poll numbers-- or liberal press bias clay pigeon practice
George in Easy Rider: "Oh, oh I've got a helmet! I got a beauty!"
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Sounds like an excellent day for you too Mike!
Heal well brother...
"Never underestimate the power of human stupidity" - Robert Heinlein
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my dick is bigger than yours ! AND I RIDE A BA !!!!
If you do it today you MIGHT regret it. If you CAN'T do it tomorrow you WILL regret it.
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Blah blah blah blah blah. Whiners in the back seat! People who dont live here, cant vote here and should give a cr&p one way or the other. Liberal "Globalists" And liberal Americans who still cant get over the fact that they lost and try to put the greater good of the country in front of their irrational hatred of George Bush. funny how Europeans think they know better than the American voters who is best for US! I guess I DO need to be reminded that the Golden Age of Greece occurred some thousands of years ago. I think his name was Alexander. He was GREAT even if he was a switch hitter. I bet ole Alex would give the ragheads some serious pause in this day and age. Another "Guagemela" might work real good in the greater middle east. Alexander was not that big on being politcally correct when it comes to wielding the sword. But wait he was a "king" He was not elected. Novel idea. Yea ,he went through Messopotamia a while back. A long while back. George Dubya could learn a few things from Alexander the Great.  eh? But. Not much since though in the way of lEADING anything one way or the other from Greece or the rest of Europe save England. All the whiners and crying aside. At least ole George is working HARD. "Were Working Hard" His predecessor worked hard too. He annointed the oval office in a way that is most novel. The world went on around him while he spent his bodily fluids on the garments of whomever would crawl under the desk. Its a big desk. We'll take George. Thank you Bed and Bayern You liberals out there wherever you are just need to remember to .... 
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Boy,
How fast we have forgotten the Bill and Hilary show and the eight miserable years they put us through.
Seems like history just started 6 years ago once GW was elected.
Here's the scoop BP. Clinton is no longer president. Bush is. Yeah Bill Clinton had some screw-ups, but they are irrelevant to the issues with the current administration (except maybe how Bush destroyed the budget surplus that was a Clinton legacy).
And attempting to deflect criticism of Bush by debating Clinton is just cheap avoidance.
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