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I was reading a post over at the rat site about doo-rags and such and the term poser and wannbe biker kept coming up.This got me to thinking(I try not to do that to often as it hurts).Am I or are we poser's and wannabe's. I have known what I always thought of as real bikers.I spent many a fine evening drinking beer and playing darts in various bars with these guys. Mostly a good group to hang with and when someone desided to get stupid I have had them more than once push me aside and explain to the person as to why he had made a mistake. I remember once big dan grabed a guy,lifted him off his feet, bounced him off a wall, and caught him as he bounced back. He then gently set him back on his feet and asked him if he still wanted to borrow five dollars. He had changed his mind for some reason. You had to be there to understand. Anyway when I bought this bike,being a biker or mimicking the lifestyle never occured to me. I don't wanna be a biker never did. While I have enjoyed my time spent with them, there are parts to their lifestyle that doesnt really appeal to me. Anyway, so where does this place me. I just bought a bike because I love to ride motorcycles. Allways have since my first minibike. I'll never get over what it felt like to pull the cord on the mighty briggs and straten and power off into unknown. So here I am 40 years later still loveing motorbikes and still riding. So, no im not a poser and i don't wanna be a biker. I do wear a do rag most of the time cause it keeps my nicely shaven head warmer in the cold and dryer in the heat. Comes in handy for wipeing bugs from my visor and more. I do have some leather but I dont genaraly wear it unless the weather calls for it. I don't have no tatoo's. I don't know what I am....
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I hear what your sayng brother. I think too many people get caught up in being someone and forget how to be themselves. I would rather be a nobody or a poser doing what I love then trying to be someone else.
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No, you're not a poser.
Would this be where the terms "rider" & "biker" (in its stereotypical sense) differ?
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I guess it really depends on what we each choose to use to define the term "biker."
I am sure to some the term biker harkens an image of the stereotypical "outlaws" of the Hells Angels so immortalized by those famous "B" movies of long ago. Some may identify with Sonny Barger and the atypical "biker" image.
I think though for the most part all stereotypes aside...."who gives a rats nest?" If you ride in all weather, wear full leathers, traditional biker boots, half gloves , and a leather jacket/vest and a doo-rag skull cap you may well be a "biker"
If you ride three days a week and only in fair weather and dont wear leather but a full coverage helmet ..does thay classify you as a casual rider?
I really dont think it matters. All that does matter perhaps is that you ride a unique bike and you endeavor to do so with some modicum of safety.
But some of us do look like gangstas with a bandana and dark glasses. My wife accused me of same yesterday. but you will not see my hangin out at the "Bashful Bandit" bar.
I just ride the doggone thing and I dont worry about the stereotypes. They aint going away as it were so you live with them or a lack of them thereof.
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I'm pretty much the same as you, no tats, but I love to ride(just turned over 40,000 miles on my odometer last weekend, and then changed the oil and cleaned the chain. I don't think I'm a biker, but I'd definitely call myself a rider, because the odometer doesn't lie.
A poser by definition is somebody who pretends to be something they're not. To me that's somebody who thinks they're a bada$$ biker, but aren't. If you've been around bikes and bars, you know how to spot the real thing from the fakes...no matter what they're wearing.
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My definition of a pouser. Someone that is trying to be someone or something they are not, only because it seems cool or it's the trend. Almost like the wanna be punkers in the mid-80's. Those kids were the ones that dressed punk one day, didn't really like the music (or know anything about it), they dressed that way because they thought it would be cool. A couple days later they would be into something else for the same reasons.
I do not know if I consider myself a biker or if others do either, nor do I care. I do know that I love to ride. I love my bike. I genuinely enjoy and appreciate the freedom and exhileration of being on two wheels. Yes, I have my jackets, leather pants and boots, but that is because that is the way that I am most comfortable. Am I a posuer, no, not at all. I am a left over anacrchist punk from the 80's that loves and appreciates my bike and every chance I get to ride it.
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but you will not see my hangin out at the "Bashful Bandit" bar.
Hey, nothing wrong with the Bashful Bandit. I've been in there a few times, including one time when I didn't know it was college night. Talk about strange...here's this total biker looking bar and it's jam packed full of college kids drinking $1.50 longnecks. The reason they have college night is because the owner is some 22 or 23 year old kid who just graduated from the UofA with a business degree. He was given the bar from his Dad.
But the Bandit isn't a bad place, no worse than the Wagon Wheel out by you. Berky's is another "biker bar" that's worth checking out on Sunday afternoons if you like live music....mostly classic rock and blues. They have an open mic jam session run by Deacon that's a favorite stop of mine after a Sunday ride. Starts around 3-4 pm. Lots of bikes. It's great having a place to go see live music where you don't have to be out at night. There's a poker run out of Berky's on June 10th if you're interested.
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I have two leather jackets, two leather vests, chaps, boots, tat, 1 full face, 2 1/2's, 1 skid lid, and 1 bean cover, 1 set 1/2 gloves, 1 set thin full gloves long gauntlets, one set thinsolate short gauntlets, I've ridden for 20 + years (started when I was 12 but had some off years) been down, I'm a rider...but I have been known to display "biker" like actions on occasion...my days of "pickin fights" are behind me (I hope), I prefere wine (or scotch) to beer now, enjoy a good ceegar on occaision, I prefere to avoid conflict now, but when provoked... (and that too takes WAY more than it used to)so am I a pozer?....I don't think so...biker???...not in the B movie sence any more...I don't heal like I used to and ...I discovered that pain sucks, and these days I'm more likely to help you out than punch you out!!! so I guess I'm a rider...but I never really considered that I needed to "define myself" I am who I am...and If you don't like it...fine....I don't need any more friends lookin to "help them move" and if you like me (and I you) just give me a call if you need a hand "movin"...but the beer is on you!
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Here we go again... "Are we poser's?" (I daresay merely by buying a Triumph, you're not a poser. I figure if you ride at least a few thousand miles a year you can wear whatever you want. But who cares what anyone else thinks anyway?  )
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So tats and leather make you look like a biker. Now I get it, all this time I thought I was trying to look like a farmer, a utility worker, a father, a husband, and a guy that enjoys riding a bike. I have do-rags and leathers and big ole boots and all of these things have a purpose. I guess you could call me a poser when I'm out fishing and I wear my fake hook and eye patch. ey Matee
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I dunno about any of that stuff. All I know is that I ride a motorcycle. That's what I do. That's what I've always done. Sure, I've had like minded friends that I've hung out with, and special places to go where I didn't get that "I know yer kind..." speach. But, they're all pretty much gone now. A lot of people I've known are dead, locked up, run out of town, quit riding for various reasons and drifted away. The hangouts have closed up, been torn down or just changed into the sort of place I don't like to be. Yup, all that sh*t's gone, but I still ride because that's what I do, what I've always done, and I can't think of anything else to do that suits me.
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when i get the "oh you're a biker?" i say "no, i'm a motorcyclist, no costume required." that usually sets ME apart from THEM.
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Actually Sal....I have never been in the Bashful Bandit. But I have been in Tucson since 77 and I assumed since it has had a few instances of violence over the years that it must be the atypical outlaw joint. Never been in there.
Been to Berkys on a few occasions. Our West Coast Swing club tried a night of dancing there with a guest instructor who just happens to be over the top as gay as he can be. It was funny watching the looks some of the bikers threw in his direction!
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I'm a bikerdood. A little kid rode into my driveway on his tricycle once and said "Nice bike, dood!" then pedalled away.
ya sure that wasn't Benny? "dood?"
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Why Grump! I'd be happy to proudly pose next to my Triumphs for a photo-op, any day o' the week, ol' buddy!  (I'm sooooooo photogenic, ya know)  Cheers, Dwight (have your agent call my agent...you DO have an agent, don't cha???) 
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Biker? Maybe not. I spend most nights at home. Have yet to make a serious cross country trip on two wheels.
Have yet to experience a broken clutch cable, or even a flat tire on the road.
I put the miles on, and I'm not afraid of the weather - will ride in rain in a heartbeat. But there is a lot I have yet to experience, and a lot I hope I never have to.
Poseur? So I wear a several Triumph jackets, riding pants, a ball cap - I believe Triumph when they say they ride test all of their stuff - and like all I have purchased so far. It's functional. Does well what it is supposed to.
I don't frequent bars or drink and ride. I don't run with many others who do, either. Not my cup of tea. (I would rather stop by a friend's place and share a good ice tea, if that's offered, but I have better things to do than bar-hop.)
I have not been riding long, but eventually the miles under my belt will make up for it. Some say they've been riding 30 years, and had a dozen different bikes - but how many miles did they ever put on them? (Some put a lot, I know.)
We are what we are. I vote. I help elect judges. Didn't sign up to be one.
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Dude, what are you tryin to say? 
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My two favorite riding T-shirts say:
TRIUMPH - Making every man a mechanic
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THIS is what cool looks like!
Yes, I'm a poser. Wanna take a picture? (Ooooo, THAT would make a good shirt!)
While we're at it, what are some ideas for some T-shirts? I submit:
TRIUMPH - Classic style with a modern touch
TRIUMPH - 'cause anything else is just a motorcycle
TRIUMPH - Yeah, they STILL make em!
TRIUMPH - Passing the test of time
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Not to get off subject....buuuuuttt...
JC your T-Shirt thing got me thinking...
Saw a t-shirt the other day I have to have...those who never owned an OLD (read Lucas) Triumph might not get it those who did...well
Said on the front
Lucas "Prince of darkness" then there was a pic of a three position toggle switch
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unfortunatly it was on someone so I don't own it
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I have two leather jackets, two leather vests, chaps, boots, tat, 1 full face, 2 1/2's, 1 skid lid, and 1 bean cover, 1 set 1/2 gloves, 1 set thin full gloves long gauntlets, one set thinsolate short gauntlets, I've ridden for 20 + years (started when I was 12 but had some off years) been down, I'm a rider...but I have been known to display "biker" like actions on occasion...my days of "pickin fights" are behind me (I hope), I prefere wine (or scotch) to beer now, enjoy a good ceegar on occaision, I prefere to avoid conflict now, but when provoked... (and that too takes WAY more than it used to)so am I a pozer?....I don't think so...biker???...not in the B movie sence any more...I don't heal like I used to and ...I discovered that pain sucks, and these days I'm more likely to help you out than punch you out!!! so I guess I'm a rider...but I never really considered that I needed to "define myself" I am who I am...and If you don't like it...fine....I don't need any more friends lookin to "help them move" and if you like me (and I you) just give me a call if you need a hand "movin"...but the beer is on you!
I'd be happy to be friends with you...we sound a lot alike. Except for the ceegars...ok, and maybe excepting the scotch too...scotch, eh? Isn't that the stuff that tastes like rye and water? 
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Hey Trash I had the Triumph survey thingy and some of the questions are lifestyle orientated. Things like did you buy your motorcycle to impress others etc. I answered no to them because I had the bike for me.
I wear leathers because over here they're necessary (weather / idiot drivers trying to kill you etc).
I have many tatts but I had some of 'em before buying the bike so it wasn't a 'bike' reason for having 'em. I don't have tattoos that are bike orientated either, nor are they club affiliation / group orientated either. I enjoy having tattoos done and will have more.
Like many, I have bikes because I love to ride 'em.
The posers are the guys who strutt around in the (OK, lets point fingers) Harley jackets / biker boots / bandana and never plant their arse on a bike.
The posers are the guys who wear a suit all week and put on the temporary tattoos and designer stubble then trailer their bikes to within 5 miles of a gig and ride in with their other suited friends ...
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I don't worry about the whole image thing. Never have. Been riding since I was a teen and intend to ride until the day I drop. I dress for comfort and safety. No doo rags, no chains, no fringed leather, no club patches, no clubs. I just ride. If you're comfortable in your own skin you don't have to worry about things like this. As wrinkled as it is I'm comfortable in my own skin and don't give a hoot what others think of me when I ride, or how I look doing it. Why should you give a rip about it?
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I don't worry about the whole image thing. Never have. Been riding since I was a teen and intend to ride until the day I drop. I dress for comfort and safety. No doo rags, no chains, no fringed leather, no club patches, no clubs. I just ride. If you're comfortable in your own skin you don't have to worry about things like this. As wrinkled as it is I'm comfortable in my own skin and don't give a hoot what others think of me when I ride, or how I look doing it. Why should you give a rip about it?
Right on! That's why I feel comfortable wearing a helmet...I ain't trying to pose and don't care that it may look stupid. Shoot, I was probably the only one wearing a full face at Myrtle Beach Bike week!! I was proud of it. I kinda feel that if I personally didn't wear a helmet...that I would be trying to "pose". 
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As long as you didnt change to fit an image , because you bought a bike, than i wouldnt consider that being a poser. I have tattoos , wear leathers, but thats who I am, and I've always been this way. Besides if being a poser makes YOU happy then thats all that counts, labels are only what you make of them, so call me a biker , poser , who cares. 
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I don't wear leathers, have no tats and occasionally do girly stuff. However I love the way I can return to my bike, and someone is looking at her. Or I can sit outside a coffee shop, with her parked not too far away and and count on all my fingers and toes how many people stop to have a look. If that makes me a poser then I'm not apologising.
And before you yell at me, I do wear bike stuff with protectors in....just not made of leather.
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As long as you didnt change to fit an image , because you bought a bike, than i wouldnt consider that being a poser.
I think you hit it there. Like Rob said, he "looks" like a biker because of what he happens to wear, etc. But he didn't do all that stuff with the intended goal of "looking like a biker".
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My definition of a poser is the three guys I saw at a swap meet in Little Rock. They all got out of a Ford pickup in full leathers. Now it was February so I can understand the leather jackets. Maybe it was just too cold to ride and that was the only winter coat they owned... but chaps???
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Just to put an almost finishing touch on this thread...
A biker went to a bar and ordered a drink. As he sat sipping his whiskey, a young lady sat down next to him. She turned to the biker and asked, "Are you a real biker?" He replied, "Well, I've spent my whole life on motorcycle. My momma was pregnant with me when she rode on the back of my Daddy's motorcycle, then as a little boy I rode on the back with my Daddy until I finally got my own motorcycle. I've been riding motorcycles ever since. So yes, I guess I am a real biker."
She said, "I'm a lesbian. I spend my whole day thinking about women. As soon as I get up in the morning, I think about women; when I shower, watch TV, eat, whatever, everything seems to make me think of women." Then she got up and left.
The biker was thinking about what just happened when a man sat down next to the biker and asked, "Are you a real biker?"
He replied, "I always thought I was, but I just found out I'm a lesbian."
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Soren, I think I'm a lesbian too...
Tbarider, I met those same "bikers" at swapmeet here back in january.
I hate labels - biker, rider, motorcyclist... etc,etc. I may not be the best rider (As anyone who was behind me in GA knows. Sorry) but I'm trying, I'm learning, and I'm have a great time, I ain't no poser.
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I'm not a lesbian, but I wouldn't mind being the meat in the middle of a dyke sandwich.
I got my bike to ride, not to pose, but, I guess I pose everytime I stop for gas.
Our bikes seem to draw a crowd.
I like it!
Charlie
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I'm a motorcycle enthusiast, not a biker.
I do wear a leather jacket(for protection, not looks), and boots, gloves, and full coverage helmet.
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Hello....my name is Rob, and I'm a lesbian trapped in a mans body... And if posing gets me that "role" as the meat Charlie refers to...then I'm posin!!!! 
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Hello....my name is Matt, and i agree with Rob.
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in a way i have to thank "posers" and the heard of thousands that drink the harley "kool aid". because of this crowd i felt the need to leave it behind and take a different path. it had to be a machine with history, good reputation but different. triumph was perfect, in particular the america. since i've owned her, anywhere i go it get looks from riders of all brands and i just know either from the questions i'm asked or just from watching the riders observe my bike i know they're just asking themselves what it is about triumph they're missing. i know they're questioning thier decision for riding the brand they ride. i think many are thinking they are missing out. sorry a little off subject but there it is.
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Do they still make Triumphs?
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As I walked out in the streets of Laredo, as I walked out in Laredo one day. I spied a young cowboy dressed in white linen. Dressed in white linen and cold as the clay.
I can see by your outfit that you are a cowboy. You can see by my outfit I'm a cowboy, too. You can see by our outfits that we are both cowboys. Get yourself an outfit and be a cowboy, too!
Thank you, Smothers Brothers.
Contra todo mal, mezcal; contra todo bien, también
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Joined: Jan 2005
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Should be Riding
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Should be Riding
Joined: Jan 2005
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Since this thread is going down hill fast, how about a little push... Quote:
Riding on the range, I've got my hat - on, I've got my boots - dusty.
I've got my saddle On my horse. He's called....T-t-t-t-t-trigger Of course.
I wanna be a cowboy and you can be my cowgirl I wanna be a cowboy and you can be my cowgirl I wanna be a cowboy
(woman's voice) Riding on the chuck wagon, Following my man. His name is Ted, Can you believe that? Camping on the prairie Plays havoc with my hair. Makes me feel quite dirty, Though we all do sometimes
I wanna be a cowboy and you can be my cowgirl I wanna be a cowboy and you can be my cowgirl I wanna be a cowboy
Looking like a hero, Six-gun at my side, Chewing my tobacco. Out on the horizon, I see a puff of smoke. Indians on the warpath, (Indian voice) White man speak-em with forked tongue. Or not.
I wanna be a cowboy and you can be my cowgirl I wanna be a cowboy
My name is Ted, And one day I'll be dead yo yo.
"I Wanna Be A Cowboy" ~ Boys Don't Cry

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