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The last truck I had was a mid-sized 2001 Dodge Dakota club cab (4 doors)with the 4.7 V-8. I never had one lick of problems with it, and it rode and handled as well as any truck I've ever driven. I was sad to see it drive off with my ex-wife when she took it to Colorado after we split. I STILL miss that truck... 
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and still tows a 5th wheel. Can your Toyota do that?
Not everyone WANTS or NEEDS to haul a 5th wheel or a bunch of horses or whatever. AND those little econoboxes can go faster on about 1/4th the gas...
BUT!! That being said, if you WANT or NEED to tow something, there's just no replacement for a fullsize truck 
I wouldn't bet on their being faster. To quote a friend of mine who needed to make a fast trip pulling a loaded 2 axle horse trailer with his Cummins powered Ram 3500, "You wouldn't believe how carsick 6 horses get at 118 MPH!"
And, 1/4 the gas? I was consistantly getting 20 MPG with my '96 Ram 1500, and the 383 powered Jensen Interceptor would go 17 - 18 miles on a gallon, even at a bit over the speed limit. Are you sure those wee tincans get 60 - 80 MPG? Even if they did, it's not worth it to me to have a car that you put on instead of getting in.
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The only Mopars I had were beaters. Easy to keep running as the expensive parts were darn reliable. Slant 6's and 318's went forever. Performance wise, I always ran a smallbolck Chevy in the circle cars, most with a Ford 9" rear end. Most street cars have been ford products for a long time. It's getting hard to buy a bad car these days. I bought my first new Chevy last week(an Impala). The last Impala I drove was my Dad's '67. A great memory of the Halsted drive-in I'll never forget. I get aroused whenever I see a Madiera Maroon '67 . Drive what gets you aroused! Mike Sr.
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Only mopar I own now is a 97 Dodge Ram that I bought new. Still runs like a champ. It has the 5.2l motor(318ci) Growing up Dodge was always great worktruck. Still is. Most tranny problems are on the 4 x 4 5.7L(360ci) trucks that I have seen.
I do have a 331 and 392 early hemi motors that I am rebuilding. The 331 is a Hemi out of a 54 New Yorker and the 392 is out of a 57 Imperial. Talk about expensive. These motors cost about 2k-3k to build back to stock specs. But there is nothing like a 32 roadster running a 331 or 392 hemi except for maybe a 401 Nailhead.
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Were those diesels? THEY get great milage, but no way a big V8... Doing 118 on a highway is one thing, playing "double that speed limit" on the back roads in Vermont is a whole different animal Basically what I mean is each has it's purpose. The tough part is finding something that meets ALL your needs/wants/desires. No fullsize truck is going to out handle a GLI, and no Civic is gonna out tow a Cummins. Plain and simple. Oh I did 85-90 ALL the way to Bar Harbor ME from Worcester MA in a 91 Saturn SL2 and got 35 MPG.
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Chevy,Ford and the far eastern wrecks bite! Mopar rules and always has.They ruled the dragstrip back then and most use hemi engines now in the dragsters. Petty won almost all the races one year in the '70s.He drove a Ford one year when Chrysler boycotted Nascar.Most all of the engines I've had thru the years were 318's like in a cuda, challenger,sebring,fury and dart were the best made!Believe!!!!!!The new challenger will scream too! 
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This new round of Crysler cars (Magnum, Charger, etc) are great, now if they could only get them under say 4000 lbs they would be even more sweet  I know mine is the BASE model, but it really does float up and down a lot over big bumps. Nice smooth ride! But not the best handling. I'd like to drive a sportier model to try it out.
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Watch out for that one FJ! Couple of anomalies.... WTF is this?: Doors: 4 doors or more Condition is listed as Used but scroll down a little and we find: *BRAND NEW CAR* Huh?
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Not THAT one. I'm thinking a surplus cop car down the road.
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This new round of Crysler cars (Magnum, Charger, etc) are great, now if they could only get them under say 4000 lbs they would be even more sweet I know mine is the BASE model, but it really does float up and down a lot over big bumps. Nice smooth ride! But not the best handling. I'd like to drive a sportier model to try it out.
Try the all wheel drive model's if you like to stick to corners and jackrabbit starts.
The AWD is all E class Mercedes except for the body and the Hemi engine.
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Not THAT one. I'm thinking a surplus cop car down the road.
Like the Blues Mobile?
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Elwood: You don't like it?
Jake: No I don't like it...
Jake: Car's got a lot of pickup.
Elwood: It's got a cop motor, a 440 cubic inch plant, it's got cop tires, cop suspensions, cop shocks. It's a model made before catalytic converters so it'll run good on regular gas. What do you say, is it the new Bluesmobile or what?
Jake: Fix the cigarette lighter.
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I'm holding out for that Challenger. Rumor has it that it will have a real 6 speed manual trans. It's too bad that DC killed Plymouth or else there would be the possibility of a 'Cuda model as well.
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Soren, read in Road and Track that the rhumor is wrong and the clutch pedal in the concept car was a dummy! I was very dissapointed.
Mad, I bed the suspension on the Hemi's a different, but mine leans a lot in corners and the tires are just OK. That's more what I'm thinkin of...
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Soren, read in Road and Track that the rhumor is wrong and the clutch pedal in the concept car was a dummy! I was very dissapointed.
Mad, I bed the suspension on the Hemi's a different, but mine leans a lot in corners and the tires are just OK. That's more what I'm thinkin of...
It's common knowledge on all the Dodge, Chrysler boards that the AWD Magnum R/T has the exact same suspension, rear differential, CV joints, springs, shocks, transmission, transfer case, as the Mercedes E class All wheel drive.
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Yeah I knew that they were based on the precious (current at the time they were designed) E class, so it makes sense the AWD would be the same. I think it's just a matter of the R/T having different shocks/anti roll bars/springs than the SE or whatever model the V6 is called...
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Great...just what we need. The cops scrapping their 230HP Crown Vics for 345hp Dodge Chargers. And bonny...the only thing you, me and everybody else need to watch out for is these coming up alot faster than those Crown Vics in our rear or side view mirrors!!
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At least they have a distinctive front end so you can see em coming! AND now people will get out of MY way when I'm in the left lane
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Soren, read in Road and Track that the rhumor is wrong and the clutch pedal in the concept car was a dummy! I was very dissapointed.
Road and Track needs to retract their article. The concept car has a Viper 6-speed. See here,watch the video, and wipe the drool of your keyboard:
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=115459#
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Well Crysler has very few cars with stick shifts right now... so I'll believe it when I see it. Trust me, I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to see it happen, but lately they are few and far between.
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Seems that any manual transmission is hard to find except in the smaller 4 cylinder cars, and that is even getting rare. I guess if I want a manual trany, I just might have to settle for a Viper. Soren
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Yeah it's like the extremes of the spectrun. Small 4 bangers or a Viper/Vette. I guess you can get some Accord's with them and a Mazda 6. Those are about the only mid size... Well a Passat or a Volvo... Or BMW... But none of the american mid or big cars.
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I was just looking at that new Dodge Caliber online. It only comes with 4 bangers, but in three sizes. The largest one (2.4 liter) only comes with an automatic. It's crazy. In old days, you had to pay extra to get a lazy driver trans, but now you dont get much of a choice at all. for me it's not the lack of power you (use to) get with an AT, but the driving experience is gone without shifting. It is part of it.
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You can still get all the new Mustangs with manual transmissions.
Hopefully the new Challenger will have the same six speed manual trans that is in the concept car. I don't see whay not cause the Viper/Vette and Mustangs have the manual trans and a powerful engine.
I have to admit the 5 speed auto (Mercedes) in the Dodge Magnum is sweet along with the paddle shifter.
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My Charger R/T stays relatively flat in corners. Also, I think the traction/stability programming might be different on the Hemi cars. It is definately different form the DB cars.
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Seems that any manual transmission is hard to find except in the smaller 4 cylinder cars, and that is even getting rare.
I guess if I want a manual trany, I just might have to settle for a Viper.
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For the most part, manual shifts are out because of EPA mandates. Emission controls can be overwhelmed if you insist on shifting outside the "window". Economics plays some part too, other than people who are likely to buy a specialty car like a Challenger or Viper, there aren't enough people these days who know how to drive to make a manual shift worth offering.
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Hey Mad and Greybeard, I need an opinion...
In my Charger, when I shift into drive or reverse (either from Park or from one to the other), I then transfer my foot from the brake to the gas and it takes a full 1-2 count before the throttle raises and it goes. Not only is it kinda annoying when you are trying to do quick parking lot manuvers (which I'm doing more of since it's so big), but my foot is usually half way to the floor by the time the throttle comes on line so I peel out all the time. Do you guys see this? Wondering if it's a V6 model thing, or maybe some weird build in break-in period program or something...
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The throttle is electronically controlled. No cables or linkage. The only way to get rid of the lag time is to get a Superchips Flashpaq. You can also firm up the shifts, raise the shiftpoints, raise the rpm limiter, set the speedo to the diameter of your tires, and much more. I am assuming you have a 5.7 Hemi? Go here and join in on the Mopar fun. Do searches and you will most likely be able to answer all your questions.--> http://www.lxforums.com/board/index.php?and here--> http://www.dodgeforum.com/Good luck, Mad`
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Nope I have a V6 (hey, it's a company car ie: FREE! ), so I was wondering if the V8 cars acted the same way, which it sounds like it does.... I knew they were electronic throttles, especially since the tach doesn't move untill that lag is over. So that's a yes from Mad then? I'm not going to get involved with another board Especially for a car I can't mod!
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Speaking of Mopars, today I took the day off to run up to Ronan, MT, with my buddy Gene to pickup his third SuperBee, a 1970 model. He also has a '69 and '71 (I think the former is the coolest of the three and the latter is the ugliest). The '69 runs but needs a new gas tank, brakes and tires to be street worthy, and a whole lot more work to be show worthy. The '69 is the only parts-matching car of the bunch and the only one that will remain original. One will be a sleeper and the other one will be ...insane. He also has a late 60's Dodge Crew Cab that he'll be rebuilding for a tow rig (his dad was the original owner) and the only non-mopar project, a '53 Buick lead sled. Busy guy.
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P.S. This is the buddy I've known since high school and who painted my bike. If any of you read Super Rod magazine, regarding the custom blue Kaiser on the cover of the June '06 issue, the one that won the Foose award in Detroit, my buddy custom mixed that blue color (the owner named it "Blue Gene").
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Soren, read in Road and Track that the rhumor is wrong and the clutch pedal in the concept car was a dummy! I was very dissapointed.
By the time this "road test" http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=115459#
was made, it had the 6 speed Viper gearbox in it. Can't imagine the old fliud drive standing up to that engine, so the clutch pedal must have been real. Can't believe a word Road and Track says. Not even the page numbers.
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I'll be as psyched as the next guy if they put a stick in it! And an automatic seems to hold up fine to that motor in the SRT8's...
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Soren, read in Road and Track that the rhumor is wrong and the clutch pedal in the concept car was a dummy! I was very dissapointed.
By the time this "road test" http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=115459#
was made, it had the 6 speed Viper gearbox in it. Can't imagine the old fliud drive standing up to that engine, so the clutch pedal must have been real. Can't believe a word Road and Track says. Not even the page numbers.
Automatic transmissions were available in all the old "muscle cars" and held up quite well. The C-6, Turbo-400 and 727 were all stout trannys. The ol' cast iron Powerglide was just about bulletproof when built correctly. The HP numbers given aren't really complete (or at least I didn't see it), they should have the RPM for the HP specs, and more importantly have the torque specs, also at RPM. That said, a friend of mine has a 2002 Dodge 3/4 ton with the Cummins deisel and Chryslers auto trans. The factory trans is not able to deal with the power of that engine, high torque at low RPM. So the auto trannys of today might not be as solid as those from "the day".
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Soren,
I like the push button automatic transmissions on the Plymouth cars and Triumph motorcycles.
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I would consider Dodge, Plymouth, Chrysler in the same class as HD's. No correlation between MOPAR w/Triumph.  If there is, I am selling my bike.
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