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Gauge for Oil Temp #5388 03/02/2005 9:58 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 299 Western PA TR6 OP Adjunct
OP TR6 Adjunct Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 299 Western PA	Any ideas on a mechanical or electronic (Like the Rocket III's) gauge to replace the oil fill plug? Or are the crank throws in the way? I'd like to get an earlier warning about overheating before the oil thins enough to trip the oil pressure switch. Or is this a non-issue?

Re: Gauge for Oil Temp TR6 #5389 03/02/2005 10:13 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 6,308 Likes: 4 Honeoye, New York Dinqua Worn Saddle
Dinqua Worn Saddle Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 6,308 Likes: 4 Honeoye, New York	That is a good idea TR6. I would really like to have a pressure gauge and temp gauge for the oil. Someone here must have one, how about it guys? What/where/how much? GaryJames? Didn't you get yours all setup that way yet? Inquiring minds (and I use that term loosely) want to know. A word to the wise is not necessary. It is the stupid ones who need the advice. Pat

Re: Gauge for Oil Temp Dinqua #5390 03/02/2005 3:17 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 38 new zealand lawn Greenhorn
lawn Greenhorn Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 38 new zealand	yeah pressure gauge would be great ,its amazing how much presssure that cold oil is putting on your bike before it warms up

Re: Gauge for Oil Temp lawn #5391 03/02/2005 4:37 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 299 Western PA TR6 OP Adjunct
OP TR6 Adjunct Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 299 Western PA	Another good reason to have a pressure gauge is you can do simple diagnostics with it. If you have worn con rod bearings, the pressure will drop as you increase rpm's due to the centrifugal force throwing the oil out of the eccentric bearings. If the pressure rises with rpm, its a bit difficult to figure out what's going on. Could be a worn oil pump, worn main bearings, or simply overheated oil.

Re: Gauge for Oil Temp TR6 #5392 03/02/2005 6:57 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 180 S.W PA marko Adjunct
marko Adjunct Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 180 S.W PA	in the old days we would just unscrew the sending unit and replace with an oil pressure gauge. Looks like you would need an electronic gauge on the ba or sm . if someone comes up with one I would like to hear how it works. Yeah it's fast. It's blue and it has flames.

Re: Gauge for Oil Temp TR6 #5393 03/03/2005 5:38 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,362 Brisbane, QLD, AU Sandmann Oil Expert
Sandmann Oil Expert Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,362 Brisbane, QLD, AU	Quote: Any ideas on a mechanical or electronic (Like the Rocket III's) gauge to replace the oil fill plug? You haven't taken the filler cap off have you? There's very little space below it, ceptainly not enough to get into the sump. If it's oil temp you're after it's simple enough to fit the sensor at one end of the oil cooler. If it's pressure you're better off using the oil line that runs up the back of the cylinders. In either case you should be able to use an extra banjo with the sensor mounted in it by replacing the existing bolt with a longer one intended for dual banjos (no, not duelling banjos). The biggest drama you'll find is locating a solid, reliable, weather and vibration-proof gauge and somewhere to mount it where you can spot it easilly while riding. Preferably you want a liquid filled gauge to reduce inacuracies due to vibrations. I'd be checking out parts suppliers for HD's, since I'm told they often have issues with oil pressure at low revs in hot environments. For what it's worth I'd suggest the pressure gauge'd be more useful than the temp one since you'll be able to watch the pressure decrease as it heats up, AND it'll warn you of problems that aren't heat-related. Matt Matt Electronic mods for TBA/SM!

Re: Gauge for Oil Temp Sandmann #5394 03/03/2005 11:29 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 299 Western PA TR6 OP Adjunct
OP TR6 Adjunct Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 299 Western PA	[quoteYou haven't taken the filler cap off have you? Ahh, you're killing me . . . nope, haven't had the cap off yet as my odo reads a totally remarkable 108 miles . But thanks for cluing me in to what's behind that cap . Looks like I'll be lurking the H-D vendors to cobble some bits together for a pressure setup. Any room to install a T fitting where the existing pressure switch is? Any info on the thread details there?

Re: Gauge for Oil Temp TR6 #5395 03/04/2005 12:09 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 9,223 Lake Placid, Fl. bonnyusa Big Bore
bonnyusa Big Bore Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 9,223 Lake Placid, Fl.	Hi Rick, Maybe I won't be too late on this info!! I was looking into this very issue last year and did some extensive research. I found what I think would be the perfect solution. The devices are called Swichgages. The ones in the link below are diaphragm-actuated pressure gauges, with built-in electrical switches which could be used to trip an alarm on low pressure. (I could not find electrically activated (with a sending unit) pressure gauges with the switch) I never carried through because of too many other things going on so I offer it up for all to figure out. What is needed is: a way to install it in the pressurized system to activate the gauge a small 12v alarm wired into the gauge switch The only issue I could see would be when you turn on the key. Of course the alarm would go off due to no oil pressure. As soon as you hit the starter, pressure would build and would kill the alarm. The upside would be if you lost oil pressure while riding, the alarm would go off and you could immediately kill the motor and perhaps save it. I had these gauge/switches on my commercial fishing boat many years ago for oil pressure and water temperature. They were lifesavers on more than one occasion. http://www.fwmurphy.com/pdf/P-94116B.pdf "Never underestimate the power of human stupidity" - Robert Heinlein

Re: Gauge for Oil Temp TR6 #5396 03/04/2005 4:37 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,362 Brisbane, QLD, AU Sandmann Oil Expert
Sandmann Oil Expert Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,362 Brisbane, QLD, AU	Quote: Any room to install a T fitting where the existing pressure switch is? Any info on the thread details there? Don't think anyone's sussed out the thread size/type. I'm guessing it'll be metric like the rest of the bike but the brits have been known to use odd threads for oil in the past, like gas threads etc. Getting a T piece into either end of the line up the back of the cylinders'd be tricky - there's not a lot of room there, however if you could contrive a replacement for the bolt holding the lower banjo in place that had a taller head with a threaded hole in the top you could hook some nice braided line into it and run it off to your gauge, or to a sender if you wanted an electronic one. I'd be pretty surprised if such a bolt didn't exist, but if not it wouldn't be hard to make. Matt Matt Electronic mods for TBA/SM!

Re: Gauge for Oil Temp Sandmann #5397 03/04/2005 12:20 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 394 Garland, Texas boogieman Adjunct
boogieman Adjunct Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 394 Garland, Texas	A compression type tee in the existing line is very doable. As a pipe-fitter we used stainless ftgs. capable of thousands of psi. Brand name is "Swedge-Lock". Another banjo ftg (and washers of course) with a longer bolt will work equally well. www.streetboogie.com A Point In Every Direction Is As Good As No Point At All !

Re: Gauge for Oil Temp boogieman #5398 03/04/2005 8:12 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,877 Long Island, NY bennybmn Should be Riding
bennybmn Should be Riding Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,877 Long Island, NY	Used swedge lock fittings on a lot of hydraulic stuff in the past... Good stuff. Of course a T fitting might be easier... Benny Black & Silver '02 Too many mods to list Not enough miles ridden

Re: Gauge for Oil Temp Dinqua #5399 03/05/2005 5:54 AM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 73 Buffalo New York GaryJames Member
GaryJames Member Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 73 Buffalo New York	I had a temp gauge & pressure gauge all picked out & bookmarked & never ordered them, I simply forgot. A member had a metric liquid filled temp guage pictured on this site @ one time. I'm not sure but I think it was this one...(white face) http://motorcyclecity.com/Parts/Horns___Gauges.html or (for Blk.) http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/Produ...Ntt=oil%20gauge another one:(call first & ask about metric fittings) http://www.dragspecialties.com/fatbook/index.shtml Install:He simply found a bolt in bottom end to screw in the fitting & presto it was done. It looked great!

Re: Gauge for Oil Temp GaryJames #5400 03/05/2005 11:13 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 299 Western PA TR6 OP Adjunct
OP TR6 Adjunct Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 299 Western PA	Thanks for the info Gary and others. Looks like the pressure gauge from MCCity fits the bill. If I can find the proper banjo, the best tap location should be on the inlet side of the oil cooler?

Re: Gauge for Oil Temp TR6 #5401 03/11/2005 1:59 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 999 Dundalk Maryland USA jethro666 3/4 Throttle
jethro666 3/4 Throttle Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 999 Dundalk Maryland USA	This is from the "Products and Reviews" section on the left of the Home Page.

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