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I'm in the market for a new set of tires. With all the feedback from this site it looks like I'm going to go with the Avon Venoms (AM-41, AM-42). I have yet to look locally but can anyone give me some places online to look(the only place I have found so far is MAW). TIA
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Check out these two sites... Tires Unlimited and Motorcycle Superstore I've just added these links to the Tech Vault for future reference.
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I don't think anyone has beat American Moto Tire - Avon Venom 41/42 for price. Shipping was very fast, let us know how you make out.
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just bought mt66 pirelli 100-90-18 rear 170-15-18 less 200$install
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I just ordered metzlers from AMT
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I'm very pleased with the ME880's on my bike. They folks at AMT said the Avon Venoms would provide a little better handling while the Metzlers would have a better ride and last longer.
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I was at the Trump dealer yesterday and since I'm going to need new tires shortly ask him how much to mount if i hand carry tires in. $65 for rear $45 for front. If I just bring wheels $30 each.
Seems a little pricey to me.
Any body else have some numbers for comparison?
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My local dealer quoted me $24/tire (carry-in) or $42 front and $48 rear if I bring the bike in. The Honda dealer near me quoted me $25/tire (carry-in).
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OK I have another question. This is the first time putting new tires on my bike. Should I worry about having the rims checked for true? Or should I just mount and balance the tires?
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I tried to edit but waited too long.  The prices I stated for mounting were if you bought the tires through them, if you bought the tires elsewhere then the price was about another $12-$15.
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Ordered Avon Venoms and rim strips from Tires Unlimited on 12 Jun for 225.98 plus 17.33 shipping. They arrived 14 Jun. I would have ordered tubes but couldn't figure out which 15 had the 90 stem so I got them at the local Kaw dealer.
Just a side note, I couldn't find a 170/15 Avon Viper at American Moto.
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jj. there is a second page for the additional tire sizes on the American Moto site.
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Ah yes, I see the little 'next>' link at the bottom of the page. Guess I could have saved $10. But for base shipping getting the tires to me in 2 days it was worth it.
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When I bought my Avons I searched the internet and called all the discount houses and then, mainly out of curiosity, called my dealer. Turns out that, once I reminded him who I bought my bike from, he gave me by far the best deal when you included installation. Worth a shot!
We all like to think of ourselves as rugged individualists. But when push comes to shove most of us are sheep who do what we are told. Worst of all, a lot of us become unpaid agents of whoever is controlling the agenda by enforcing the current dogma on the few rugged individualists who actually exist.
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Speaking of tires I got another flat this morning.  I left for work and the rear felt kind of low. I got 2 miles and it was completley flat. #4 for the rear in 4 years. Anyway I aired up at a gas station, it only lasted 1 mile, aired up at another station then got home. Since it has 18,000 miles on it, I looked on the tires unlimeted website that Chy listed. For the Michelin Commander they listed 156.95 retail and their price was $115.39. I thought I would go to the shop I have used in the past and see what they would charge me. First I asked if he could order from tires unlimited and he said no, he had to use his supplier. He quoted me $180. I said thanks a lot but if I can get it for $115 I will find somewhere that will mount it. I couldn't believe he was going to try and make $65 off me. Duh..., I think I'll order from Tires Unlimited.
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So what generally has caused these flats?
I put Ride-On in both the last set and the new set. I can't say it works because I've never pulled anything out of the tire, but I haven't had to add any air either.
According to the website it's better for tubeless, but will work for tubed.
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3 nails, JJ. But I don't know about the one today. Haven't had a chance to look since I had to get to work. I called the dealer to see if they could help me. They said they had a Michelin Commander in stock for $149 and would charge me $42.50 to mount it even if I brought in the wheel. So if I just take it in to the dealer it will be about $181 total. If I buy online it will be $117 for the tire $14 shipping then $42.50 to mount. That will be $173.50. I may just take it to the dealer. Stuff like this gets me down, takes the fun out of riding.  Next bike is going to have cast wheels. at least I can eliminate the tube.
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Stuff like this gets me down, takes the fun out of riding. Next bike is going to have cast wheels. at least I can eliminate the tube.
Buyer's remorse? Should have bought a Speedmaster? 
Hey, I'm just laughing with you, not at you. I've had 7 nails in my tires, mostly rear ones. Never been stranded, but I don't run on plugs so I've had to buy a lot of tires in 40,000 miles. It helps though to have Cycle Gear's road hazard warranty(which you can only get if you don't run tubes). It's saved me something like $400-500 dollars in tire costs. Last rear tire I bought had a 16 penny nail in it after only 3 weeks. Only cost me $11.99 install plus 10%($13) of the cost of the tire for road hazard(they prorate based on tread depth wear).
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Next bike is going to have cast wheels. at least I can eliminate the tube.
Man, I think if I had a choice and were not on the side of the road a long way from home, I'd rather pick up a nail in a tire with a tube. Once removed, and the tube patched or replaced, the tire is still in service. There's no reason to replace a tubed tire that's had a puncture. The same is not true for a tubeless. I had a Trident with tubeless and the one time I pick up a nail, I was so nervous with a plug going to the dealer for a tire it was unreal. A patch might work, but with the carcass flex I just wouldn't trust it. A tube on the other hand is the only thing carrying air in a tubed tire anyway. And with a new tube, the tire is fine as long as you take out the offending object and it hasn't ripped a gaping hole in the tire. A tubeless may be better for a roadside fix to get you to the next tire store for a replacement tire, but a tube fix will let you run the life of the tire.
Well, in my opinion anyway.
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I ended up getting a can of Penzoil Tire Fixit, that got me to a tire dealer. Instead of paying $160 plus for a Michelin or Metzler I just got a Dunlop 404 for $98. They charged $36 to mount it. If I ever get a set of saddlebags the Tire Fixit is going to be part of my emergency gear. It doesn't put much air in the tire but it will get you to a gas station for more air.
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But jj, you are more apt to suffer from a blowout from a tube tire than a tubless one. Like I said, I've taken plenty of nails on my Speedmaster, but none of them resulted in a flat tire. They all held air until I could get the tire changed as long as I didn't mess with the nail by trying to pull it out. And we're talking everything from long staples that carpenters shoot out of their nail guns, to 16d nails.
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I think blowouts are pretty rare nowdays. But on the road a nail in a tubeless is absolutely easier to deal with. I use Ride-On which is suppose to work much better in tubeless, but you have to pull out whatever caused the flat to really make it work. I'd still hesitate to ride a repaired tubeless to the end of its useful life where a flat in a tube, a new tube will go you to the end of the tire or the next flat.
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How are the pirelli's in the rain ? and does anyone know how long they last.
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