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An article in Entripreneur Magazine stated that some nations including China and Cuba, believe the U.S. government has too much control of the internet. A non-profit corp. assigns names, numbers, and sets top-level domains along with prices. U.N. members propose to move control to a yet not-to-be-founded U.N. agency. Of course the U.S. does not want to turn over its governance of the net. My experience has shown that most of the internet virus problems come from China. The U.N. is corrupt at the highest levels and can't run anything let alone the internet. I believe the net is just fine the way it is, but if the world insists on change its governance the a separate international agency. NOT THE U.N.

Dave

Maybe we could contact Al Gore and have him come up with an alternative, while we sell the net to the UN! Afterall, it's been quit a while since he invented it, so I'm sure he's come up with something better by this time!

Dang!!! I forgot all about him.

Dave

I'm not sure what your experience with viruses have to do with the control of DNS, since neither are related.. however, there have been numerious problems with ICANN's policies and control over TLD's, and their assignment of registrars for them in the past, including some countries who are not allowed to maintain their own DNS space and others whose control were arbitrarily handed to others for reasons other than technical control and ability. Remember, this is a global society, so really, decisions should be made by a global authority representing all interests.

Of course, there is nothing preventing the UN or any other organization from attempting to control the TLD DNS servers on the internet.. it is a cooperative venture between all involved. If enough momentium is obtained for alternative ccTLD servers run by another organization, there is nothing that ICANN or anybody else could really do about it. People will 'vote' with the TLD zone hint files in their control, and there isn't anything that can prevent them from doing so if it gets to that point.

Cheers,
Brad

Oh yeah, there ya go spoutin' all that foo & shebang trying to get a serious point across! Q: How many Unix Support staff does it take to screw in a light bulb? A: Read the man page! ....wahka, wahka, wahka!

Tom.

We could tell them to sod off, resign from the UN, kick them out of New York and watch the whole outfit collapse for lack of (US) funding.

Poor little b@st@rds. Perhaps someone should remind them that the United States built the internet. The Department of Defence as a matter of fact. What they want is control of the content going into their countries. Funny how it's dictatorships demanding that the UN control the internet. The same UN that thinks Cuba and Iran should be on the human rights oversight committee.

If Cuba, China, and the UN want control let them set up a separate system and compete. Until then let 'em pi$$ off.

the United States built the internet.

Not true.. while DARPA did fund a lot of the initial research, it by no means built the internet. If anything, it just planted the seed, and individuals, corporations, telcom providers and nations provided the resources necessary to make it what it is today. The internet is a colaborative venture between all involved and the costs of that venture is shared by all who participate. By having a private corporation in control, you basically have a control structure in place that does not represent those who it governs. If you live in the US or know it's history, then that should sound hauntingly familiar.

Cheers,
Brad

Yeah Larry, it's kind of like radio free Europe , Remember that?

If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

That's the point.. it is broke.

Cheers,
Brad

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These countries that are complaining want to control and use technology after someone else does all the research and developement.

Nope, all they want an equal say in how ccTLDs are governed, not to control them. It's not really that radical of an idea and not like governing them in a DEMOCRATIC way would lead to world disaster, pandemonium, restrictions on free speech or anything even remotely similar.. it really is very much a non-issue and simply boils down to people wanting to have a say in a process that effects them. I find it hard to imagine how anyone would want otherwise. Heck, even our usually quiet northern neighbor has pulled support for ICCAN until they can resolve their problems.

Cheers,
Brad

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So having an equal say is not a way to control something? I'm missing something here...

Apparently so You have the right to vote, do you not? Does that mean that you alone control the political process or the decisions made by that process?

I mean, WTF, are you actually advocating dictatorship (legislation without representation)?!?

Oh, and nowhere did I say this is a job for the UN, which you seem to imply..

Cheers,
Brad

At the risk of prolonging this. What I was trying to get accross about China and virus problems is that government encourages their people to make them. Because of that I wouldn't want them to have control if you can't trust them. I agree with those of you who believe we should pull the plug on the UN.

Dave