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I bet this has been chewed some but I ran a search and could not come up with a thread. Illness forced me to put me bike up for a couple of years, wouldn't you know the tank was nearly dry when I checked it. Small drip at the shut off valve, leaking pretty good now. Can these be rebuilt or are they throw away items. 03 TBA, thanks
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If you have lost the seal where it mates to the tank, you should be able to reseal that. If the valve itself is leaking, get a another OEM or go with a Pingle.
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If you have lost the seal where it mates to the tank, you should be able to reseal that. If the valve itself is leaking, get a another OEM or go with a Pingle.
Thanks, headed out now to confirm where it is leaking. More later and thanks
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Leaked stopped. Not sure why but I am going to watch it. Drained the tank and moved the fuel tap some so I guess it resealed.
I understand there is an in line filter between the tank and the carbs. Dunno where it could be unless it is inside the black rubber hose, that does not make much sense. So I guess I will install a small one.
What do most use to balance carbs? I am leaning towards quality vacumn gages. thanks
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The Hidden Filter hides inside the vertical tube just before it makes the horizontal tee to go to the carbs. You can fish it out with some needle nozers. It's a fragile little thing and they usually stay pretty clean. The tubes inside the tank at the petcock catch most of the tank crud. Like the old saying, if it ain't stopped up, don't fix it. 
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What do most use to balance carbs? I am leaning towards quality vacumn gages. thanks
Those will bounce making it hard to get a good reading. You need a manometer, a simple one can be made cheaply with a yard stick, some zip ties, clear tubing, and some 2 cycle oil. A ball valve is also a good addition but not needed.
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Type in "homemade manometer" on YouTube, there are several from jars to tubes.
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Nothing wrong with using vacuum gauges, as I do. A decent set will come with adjustable snubbers to calm the needles.
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Nothing wrong with using vacuum gauges, as I do. A decent set will come with adjustable snubbers to calm the needles.
True but the snubbers are a must.I use my home made ones because they cost me about $5 and work as well as anything you can buy,
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The Hidden Filter hides inside the vertical tube just before it makes the horizontal tee to go to the carbs. You can fish it out with some needle nozers. It's a fragile little thing and they usually stay pretty clean. The tubes inside the tank at the petcock catch most of the tank crud.
Like the old saying, if it ain't stopped up, don't fix it.
Well the bike is a 03 and with the quality of gas these days I have reservations the filter is ok, especially when I cannot see it. However, your point is well taken, I will probably opt for an external filter I can keep my eye on. I see the horizontal metal tube, all I have is rubber from the gas tank going to it. Thanks for posting and letting me know where it is.
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What do most use to balance carbs? I am leaning towards quality vacumn gages. thanks
Those will bounce making it hard to get a good reading. You need a manometer, a simple one can be made cheaply with a yard stick, some zip ties, clear tubing, and some 2 cycle oil. A ball valve is also a good addition but not needed.
I seen them last nite on you tube. Does not look much of a challenge. Ball valve: Are you talking about two to keep the bike from drinking 2 cycle oil? I have a couple of vacuum gauges. Seen your later post, how on earth did you build snubbers???? If it is an old family secret I perfectly understand  Thanks for the tips
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Nothing wrong with using vacuum gauges, as I do. A decent set will come with adjustable snubbers to calm the needles.
True but the snubbers are a must.I use my home made ones because they cost me about $5 and work as well as anything you can buy,
How bout these for low pressure carb balancing???
http://www.amazon.com/Trerice-872-2-Pres...761&sr=1-12
$9.00 ea delivered
Gotta bring to mind I am three score and 10 plus, so we are thinking how long now when we buy something :-)
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^ No, just get a decent set of gauges that include adjustable dampers/snubbers, & fittings/lines...I bought my set from fleabay years ago... I don't have a readily available pic of the snubbers (they adjust by screwing the fitting at the base tighter or looser), however here are the gauges: 
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I see the horizontal metal tube, all I have is rubber from the gas tank going to it. Thanks for posting and letting me know where it is.
It's almost right at the tee, in the short riser tube sticking up.
If you have a good fuel flow from the bowls the filter is clean.
A clear filter is a good idea for peace of mind, but after 10 years and 40K miles my hidden filter was spotless.
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I tossed that little rascal in the trash 65k miles ago
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The home made manometer is a loop of tubing if you put a valve at the bottom of the loop you can slowly open it if balance is off far enough to suck fluid into the engine you can close it before that happens to prevent it.They tell you to use other fluid but I use 2 cycle oil because if it does get sucked in it won't hurt anything.
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The home made manometer is a loop of tubing if you put a valve at the bottom of the loop you can slowly open it if balance is off far enough to suck fluid into the engine you can close it before that happens to prevent it.They tell you to use other fluid but I use 2 cycle oil because if it does get sucked in it won't hurt anything.
thanks, I am going to try the home brew option first. If that fails I will activate the vacuum gauges. Thanks
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I see the horizontal metal tube, all I have is rubber from the gas tank going to it. Thanks for posting and letting me know where it is.
It's almost right at the tee, in the short riser tube sticking up.
If you have a good fuel flow from the bowls the filter is clean.
A clear filter is a good idea for peace of mind, but after 10 years and 40K miles my hidden filter was spotless.
Thanks, I will check it out the next couple of days
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^ No, just get a decent set of gauges that include adjustable dampers/snubbers, & fittings/lines...I bought my set from fleabay years ago...
I don't have a readily available pic of the snubbers (they adjust by screwing the fitting at the base tighter or looser), however here are the gauges:
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Thanks, I just noticed my gauges are from two different makes, so if I strike out on the yardstick I will opt for new ones first, thanks again for posting
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The home made manometer is a loop of tubing if you put a valve at the bottom of the loop you can slowly open it if balance is off far enough to suck fluid into the engine you can close it before that happens to prevent it.They tell you to use other fluid but I use 2 cycle oil because if it does get sucked in it won't hurt anything.
thanks, I am going to try the home brew option first. If that fails I will activate the vacuum gauges. Thanks
Been under the weather some but I have purchased the parts and will try and balance this PM.
I was a little confused about the valve until I read your post again. I guess the valve at the bottom stops suction to both tube legs at the same time; hence, stopping the pull of fluid into the throttle bodies.
Will report back this evening or tomorrow, hopefully with successful pics, thanks
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Ok, first thanks to all for helping with homemade manometer. I just finished using it and I was surprised, needed a good adjustment. Have not taken the bike out yet for test ride and not sure I will, but when a friend comes over we will test it. If I can get a pic loaded you will be able to see how high the left side raised by the stain, obviously the right side lowered. It seems to start better but with no tach I had to use my ear as a judge. This bike will be for sale soon, age and medical challanges forcing sale, 03 Triumph. Lots of stuff go with it, I will list and place in the classifieds, thanks
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