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On this day 1944
Message to the troops from General Eisenhower :
"Soldiers, Sailors and Airmen of the Allied Expeditionary Forces:
You are about to embark upon the Great Crusade, toward which we have striven these many months. The eyes of the world are upon you. The hopes and prayers of liberty-loving people everywhere march with you. In company with our brave Allies and brothers-in-arms on other Fronts you will bring about the destruction of the German war machine, the elimination of Nazi tyranny over oppressed peoples of Europe, and security for ourselves in a free world.
Your task will not be an easy one. Your enemy is well trained, well equipped and battle-hardened. He will fight savagely.
But this is the year 1944. Much has happened since the Nazi triumphs of 1940-41. The United Nations have inflicted upon the Germans great defeats, in open battle, man-to-man. Our air offensive has seriously reduced their strength in the air and their capacity to wage war on the ground. Our Home Fronts have given us an overwhelming superiority in weapons and munitions of war, and placed at our disposal great reserves of trained fighting men. The tide has turned. The free men of the world are marching together to victory.
I have full confidence in your courage, devotion to duty, and skill in battle. We will accept nothing less than full victory.
Good Luck! And let us all beseech the blessing of Almighty God upon this great and noble undertaking."
Plan B in case of failure:
"Our landings in the Cherbourg-Havre area have failed to gain a satisfactory foothold and I have withdrawn the troops. My decision to attack at this time and place was based upon the best information available. The troops, the air and the Navy did all that Bravery and devotion to duty could do. If any blame or fault attaches to the attempt it is mine alone."
Thank God he never had to go to Plan B.
Last edited by MACMC; 06/06/2015 2:59 PM.
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
H. L. Mencken
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Good post here, Mac! 
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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I just watched "Saving Private Ryan". I do that every D-Day.
That should be a requirement for school kids.
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Yes D Day.It gets little mention.There's not enough attention paid to it or it's importance IMO.
I think "Saving Private Ryan" is probably the best war movie made yet.The "Band of Brothers" was also very good.
I like "The Longest Day" although it's Black and white, a little overacted,and a bit dated,it's the most comprehensive.It shows the scale of what was happening from all sides.
Dinosaur.
"Oh Man I only ride 'em.I don't know what makes 'em work". Donald "Oddball" Sutherland
"Don't let the bastards get you down". Kris Kristofferson
"I am only paranoid because everyone is against me". Larry [Frank Burns] Linville
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That's cool , I have all three of those set out to watch, "Saving Private Ryan", "Band of Brothers" an "The Longest Day"(in B&W)
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Oh you freakin' "kids" today, and with all this "but it's in black and white" stuff!!!  
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Cool your jets, there D-Man ! Black and white is great ! I like B&W photography even more than movies. 
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Cool your jets, there D-Man ! Black and white is great ! I like B&W photography even more than movies.
Okay Wade, fair enough. BUT, seein' as how Paul down undah there stated, and I quote:
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I like "The Longest Day" although it's Black and white, a little overacted,and a bit dated,it's the most comprehensive.It shows the scale of what was happening from all sides.
...well, unless he just kind'a misstated that little list of HIS "problems" with "The Longest Day", I'm STILL gonna call THAT Aussie one of those "kids that have a thing against B&W movies", anyway!!!
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Oh you freakin' "kids" today, and with all this "but it's in black and white" stuff!!!
Yep. 
My Dad took me to see "the Longest day" when it came out at the movies.I took him to see "Saving private Ryan" when it came out at the movies before he passed away.
I have all three on DVD.They followed "Band of Brothers" with a series on the Pacific theatre called guess what? "The Pacific" which I've also got on DVD.It was ok but it wasn't as good as the others IMO.
As for B&W,it's fine! But what about a colourized /colorized version?[I bet THAT suggestion gets Dwight  gagging and shouting HERESY!  ]
Actually,B&W is good,but the Longest Day acting is a bit corny these days.Still a great movie though.
Movies aside,
ALL RESPECT to the "Greatest generation"
Dinosaur.
"Oh Man I only ride 'em.I don't know what makes 'em work". Donald "Oddball" Sutherland
"Don't let the bastards get you down". Kris Kristofferson
"I am only paranoid because everyone is against me". Larry [Frank Burns] Linville
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Oh you freakin' "kids" today, and with all this "but it's in black and white" stuff!!!
Yep.
My Dad took me to see "the Longest day" when it came out at the movies.I took him to see "Saving private Ryan" when it came out at the movies before he passed away.
I have all three on DVD.They followed "Band of Brothers" with a series on the Pacific theatre called guess what? "The Pacific" which I've also got on DVD.It was ok but it wasn't as good as the others IMO.
Anyway movies aside.ALL RESPECT to the "Greatest generation"
And this reminds me of my Pop and I going to see PATTON when it was first released in 1970, Paul. Pop fought in Patton's 3rd Armored Division during WWII and won many a Bronze Battle Star in No.Africa, Sicily and the boot of Italy, and something of which I only learned of after he died in 2004 and after finding his Military papers in his file box.
(...I remember Pop telling me as we walked out of the theater, "Even after watching that I'm still amazed that azzhole made it all the way through the war, and because the thought at the time was, 'If the Germans don't kill the SOB, odds are one of OWN would have'!")
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Oh you freakin' "kids" today, and with all this "but it's in black and white" stuff!!!
Yep.
My Dad took me to see "the Longest day" when it came out at the movies.I took him to see "Saving private Ryan" when it came out at the movies before he passed away.
I have all three on DVD.They followed "Band of Brothers" with a series on the Pacific theatre called guess what? "The Pacific" which I've also got on DVD.It was ok but it wasn't as good as the others IMO.
Anyway movies aside.ALL RESPECT to the "Greatest generation"
And this reminds me of my Pop and I going to see PATTON when it was first released in 1970, Paul. Pop fought in Patton's 3rd Armored Division during WWII and won many a Bronze Battle Star in No.Africa, Sicily and the boot of Italy, and something of which I only learned of after he died in 2004 and after finding his Military papers in his file box.
(...I remember Pop telling me as we walked out of the theater, "Even after watching that I'm still amazed that azzhole made it all the way through the war, and because the thought at the time was, 'If the Germans don't kill the SOB, odds are one of OWN would have'!")
All respect to your Dad Dwight.They were great. 
Dinosaur.
"Oh Man I only ride 'em.I don't know what makes 'em work". Donald "Oddball" Sutherland
"Don't let the bastards get you down". Kris Kristofferson
"I am only paranoid because everyone is against me". Larry [Frank Burns] Linville
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Oh you freakin' "kids" today, and with all this "but it's in black and white" stuff!!!
Yep.
My Dad took me to see "the Longest day" when it came out at the movies.I took him to see "Saving private Ryan" when it came out at the movies before he passed away.
I have all three on DVD.They followed "Band of Brothers" with a series on the Pacific theatre called guess what? "The Pacific" which I've also got on DVD.It was ok but it wasn't as good as the others IMO.
Anyway movies aside.ALL RESPECT to the "Greatest generation"
And this reminds me of my Pop and I going to see PATTON when it was first released in 1970, Paul. Pop fought in Patton's 3rd Armored Division during WWII and won many a Bronze Battle Star in No.Africa, Sicily and the boot of Italy, and something of which I only learned of after he died in 2004 and after finding his Military papers in his file box.
(...I remember Pop telling me as we walked out of the theater, "Even after watching that I'm still amazed that azzhole made it all the way through the war, and because the thought at the time was, 'If the Germans don't kill the SOB, odds are one of OWN would have'!")
All respect to your Dad Dwight.They were great.
Thanks, Paul! 
And yeah, considering all the major world events our fathers lived through and survived, and then moved on to make a better life for themselves and their progeny, there is NO doubt in my mind as to the moniker of "The Greatest Generation" being well applied to them.
(...and in MY case especially and with my father having adopted me as an infant, and always being grateful that it WAS he who did, makes this thought doubly true in my mind!)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Oh you freakin' "kids" today, and with all this "but it's in black and white" stuff!!!
Yep.
My Dad took me to see "the Longest day" when it came out at the movies.I took him to see "Saving private Ryan" when it came out at the movies before he passed away.
I have all three on DVD.They followed "Band of Brothers" with a series on the Pacific theatre called guess what? "The Pacific" which I've also got on DVD.It was ok but it wasn't as good as the others IMO.
Anyway movies aside.ALL RESPECT to the "Greatest generation"
And this reminds me of my Pop and I going to see PATTON when it was first released in 1970, Paul. Pop fought in Patton's 3rd Armored Division during WWII and won many a Bronze Battle Star in No.Africa, Sicily and the boot of Italy, and something of which I only learned of after he died in 2004 and after finding his Military papers in his file box.
(…I remember Pop telling me as we walked out of the theater, "Even after watching that I'm still amazed that azzhole made it all the way through the war, and because the thought at the time was, 'If the Germans don't kill the SOB, odds are one of OWN would have'!")
Patton wasn't too concerned with being liked but he certainly got a lot done.
My uncle Cecil Gravett was a staff sergeant in the 35th Infantry Division, 137th Infantry Regiment attached to the Third Army when he was KIA on August 25th 1944. He was my mother's older brother. I obviously never got to meet him. I used to have his Purple Heart but sent it to my cousin who has become the family historian. Casualties in those units were often in excess of 500% between June of 1944 and May of 1945.
We all like to think of ourselves as rugged individualists. But when push comes to shove most of us are sheep who do what we are told. Worst of all, a lot of us become unpaid agents of whoever is controlling the agenda by enforcing the current dogma on the few rugged individualists who actually exist.
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Oh you freakin' "kids" today, and with all this "but it's in black and white" stuff!!!
Yep.
My Dad took me to see "the Longest day" when it came out at the movies.I took him to see "Saving private Ryan" when it came out at the movies before he passed away.
I have all three on DVD.They followed "Band of Brothers" with a series on the Pacific theatre called guess what? "The Pacific" which I've also got on DVD.It was ok but it wasn't as good as the others IMO.
Anyway movies aside.ALL RESPECT to the "Greatest generation"
And this reminds me of my Pop and I going to see PATTON when it was first released in 1970, Paul. Pop fought in Patton's 3rd Armored Division during WWII and won many a Bronze Battle Star in No.Africa, Sicily and the boot of Italy, and something of which I only learned of after he died in 2004 and after finding his Military papers in his file box.
(…I remember Pop telling me as we walked out of the theater, "Even after watching that I'm still amazed that azzhole made it all the way through the war, and because the thought at the time was, 'If the Germans don't kill the SOB, odds are one of OWN would have'!")
Patton wasn't too concerned with being liked but he certainly got a lot done.
Oh yeah, no argument HERE, Larry!
(...OR as that one G.I. in the movie about him says as Patton drives past him in his staff car, AND as my WWII veteran father implied about him, AND as that famous old saying about him goes: "Our Blood, His Guts"!!!)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Sounds like you really lucked out and had a great Dad Dwight.My father was the best too.Both of us lucky!
Dinosaur.
"Oh Man I only ride 'em.I don't know what makes 'em work". Donald "Oddball" Sutherland
"Don't let the bastards get you down". Kris Kristofferson
"I am only paranoid because everyone is against me". Larry [Frank Burns] Linville
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Sounds like you really lucked out and had a great Dad Dwight.My father was the best too.Both of us lucky!
Yep, sounds as if we both lucked out here, Paul!
But hey, ain't it unfortunate that the ONE thing MY Pop evidently didn't teach ME was how to "respect" the opinions of people with hard and fast ideas and opinions about the world at large, and to not respond to people like that in this "condescending" manner of mine???
(...yep, he MAY have been a member of that there "Greatest Generation", but evidently he wasn't "perfect" when it came to bein' a father, huh!!!)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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I often think the cops must have brought me here as a baby .My attitude and lack of respect for my "betters" is alien to the rest of the family. I have sense for what I consider right and just,and what I consider to be BS,my father had that too.
Dinosaur.
"Oh Man I only ride 'em.I don't know what makes 'em work". Donald "Oddball" Sutherland
"Don't let the bastards get you down". Kris Kristofferson
"I am only paranoid because everyone is against me". Larry [Frank Burns] Linville
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I often think the cops must have brought me here as a baby.My attitude and lack of respect for my "betters" is alien to the rest of the family.
I have sense for what I consider right and just,and what I consider to be BS,my father had that too.
Ya know Paul, come to THINK of it, maybe my Pop DIDN'T teach that stuff I said he didn't teach me WAS 'cause HE was just like I AM!
(...ya know, I KNEW there was a additional reason I always really liked the guy, but I JUST could never put my finger on it...aren't these little epiphanies GREAT sometimes?!!!)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Yes when I say my attitude was/is alien to the family, I mean the female side,Mum,Aunts etc.They're all that's left.The males have all passed away.
I suspect Dad used to secretly get a kick out of my rebellious streak.My Uncle and I used to be good mates too.
Yes I'm lucky.
Dinosaur.
"Oh Man I only ride 'em.I don't know what makes 'em work". Donald "Oddball" Sutherland
"Don't let the bastards get you down". Kris Kristofferson
"I am only paranoid because everyone is against me". Larry [Frank Burns] Linville
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My uncle's baptism of fire was Normandy Beach. He was 17 years old at the time. Then on to the Battle of the Bulge, and everything else- ending up processing survivors of the concentration camps.
Another uncle was an LST crewman at Tarawa....
No matter how Cynical I become, I can never keep up.
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