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Twelve years ago while spraying weeds in a customers lawn is when I got the news.....While doing the same today the memory of that day followed me throught the work day.
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I see movies and photos of New York prior to 2001 and the World Trade Center towers are standing and it makes me sad that they are gone now. The resolve of the American people is still quite intact. Sorta makes me sad too that it's 10 PM EST and no one has responded to this post. 
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Maybe that's 'cause while we won't forget the past, we now prefer to think of the possibilities of the future, Wade. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-24055725(...or, as I've said before on this date around here, "Just like a good man, you can't keep a good country down for long either!")
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Glad you posted....it's been on our minds all day....something never to forget. Growing up in sight of the buildings being built just adds to sense of loss for all our heros and fellow world citizens that day. My wife worked in the South Tower but started maternity leave that monday (our son was born a week later). All her colleagues got out but it was a stressful week just the same while we waited for their news.
Great to see all the tribute rides that occurred today. Heard that Billy Joel and the governor of NY led a ride from uptown down to ground zero earlier today.
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Maybe that's 'cause while we won't forget the past, we now prefer to think of possibilities of the future, Wade.
Well, it's still sorta early over there in God's country, and I just know you just got in from taking down a huge sycamore and mowing a pasture. 
And you make a good point- although we need to hold dear the memory of those lost in all the attacks, if we continue to re-live those infamous events, does the deed live in perpetuity, thus insuring a victory for the terrorists? Dunno, just pondering.
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Good question, Wade. I wish I knew the answer to it.
(...maybe there is no definitive one to it)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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I've been thinking about the whole thing all day as I always do. I didn't say anything on here cause I don't like reopening old wounds.
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Ok well I know many of you will not like this, but this day outrages me.
12 years later we have no resolution no justice and no peace. Because our politicians are weak sauce. Yet more mambiepambie weak as water pollies are elected even unto the election of this president and congress. So still rouge terrorist nations fly in our face and our big adversaries thumb their noses at us. So yes a sad day indeed. When all that lost , lost in vain.
I have no faith in human perfectability. I think that human exertion will have no appreciable effect upon humanity. Man is now only more active - not more happy - nor more wise, than he was 6000 years ago.
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So Chad, what's YOUR solution to all this then, HUH?! Wait, lemme guess here. The "solution" that Randy Newman suggests HERE, right?! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGO42gvCSPI(...remember, lets save Australia...don't wanna hurt no kangaroo...they've got surfin' too!) 
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Nope.
My solution is very simple. Missile strikes targeting train camps, militant terrorist bases, weapons storage, and infrastructure like power plants, and manufacturing facilities, drinking water reservoir dams. Then let them pick up the pieces. No soldiers on the ground, no aid, and no helping rebuilding. Then UN sanctions to slow down their trade.
I have no faith in human perfectability. I think that human exertion will have no appreciable effect upon humanity. Man is now only more active - not more happy - nor more wise, than he was 6000 years ago.
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infrastructure like power plants, and manufacturing facilities, drinking water reservoir dams.
That would be a grave injustice to the common folk who generally don't pose a threat. Hmm, a desert environment with no electricity or water. They'd really love America then. It's despotic tyrants that are the enemy. The Middle East is a land for wisdom, temperance and caution.
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infrastructure like power plants, and manufacturing facilities, drinking water reservoir dams.
That would be a grave injustice to the common folk who generally don't pose a threat. Hmm, a desert environment with no electricity or water. They'd really love America then. It's despotic tyrants that are the enemy. The Middle East is a land for wisdom, temperance and caution.
I believe the wise and temperant course is to contain them in their own countries, stay out, and let them follow the course they have followed for 1,400 years. Stop allowing idiots to stifle energy production here and we'll no longer have much of a reason to care what they do to each other.
We all like to think of ourselves as rugged individualists. But when push comes to shove most of us are sheep who do what we are told. Worst of all, a lot of us become unpaid agents of whoever is controlling the agenda by enforcing the current dogma on the few rugged individualists who actually exist.
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infrastructure like power plants, and manufacturing facilities, drinking water reservoir dams.
That would be a grave injustice to the common folk who generally don't pose a threat. Hmm, a desert environment with no electricity or water. They'd really love America then. It's despotic tyrants that are the enemy. The Middle East is a land for wisdom, temperance and caution.
I believe the wise and temperant course is to contain them in their own countries, stay out, and let them follow the course they have followed for 1,400 years. Stop allowing idiots to stifle energy production here and we'll no longer have much of a reason to care what they do to each other.
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I was speaking purely as a response to the 9/11 attacks. Hit them hard and leave them be . They may hate us but they already do so what. All that matters is that they dont commit another terrorist attack. What we did do has not worked very well. We have made so many wonderful friends the way we did handle it. Now they dont mind thumbing their noses at us.
Energy independence goes with out saying.
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I have no faith in human perfectability. I think that human exertion will have no appreciable effect upon humanity. Man is now only more active - not more happy - nor more wise, than he was 6000 years ago.
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I remember the news showing them partying in the street when towers came down. Hit their food, water, electric, medical, and military facilities they would be crying rather than dancing and it would not be worth the cost to them to attack us.
I have no faith in human perfectability. I think that human exertion will have no appreciable effect upon humanity. Man is now only more active - not more happy - nor more wise, than he was 6000 years ago.
Edgar Allan Poe
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I remember back in October of 2001 right before I joined the Navy, I had a friend that said "Make Glass, Not War".
Get it? Cause we all know waht happen when we put a lot of heat on sand. Well to bad he wasn't in a position to make that happen, now after everything that has transpired I say we just stay the hell out, tend to our own affairs first and foremost. I mean ya don't go clean up you neighbors yard when your own needs weeding first. Or someting like that.
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12 years later we have no resolution no justice and no peace.
What are you talking about? The man who planned, help finance and carry out the attacks is finally rotting at the bottom of an ocean. I'd say that is justice. Despite your right wing ravings this country is safer from terrorists than it has been for years due to increased security and the decimation of Al Qaeda leadership.
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Maybe that party should be called correct rather than right.
I learned all I need to know about life by killing smart people and eating their brains.
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Terrible event, i remember where i was very well. All i can say (personally not representing here) if i see a women getting beat up or a child abused right wrong or otherwsie i will be in there like a dirty shirt to do what i can, if that means dealing with the nut bag boyfriend etc then so be it.... my concience would be clear.
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So Wade. Are ya still wonderin' why nobody started a thread about 9/11 around here??? (...'cause all THIS is why!) 
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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12 years later we have no resolution no justice and no peace.
What are you talking about? The man who planned, help finance and carry out the attacks is finally rotting at the bottom of an ocean. I'd say that is justice. Despite your right wing ravings this country is safer from terrorists than it has been for years due to increased security and the decimation of Al Qaeda leadership.
If Al Qaeda is decimated what are we still doing having a war over there?
If we are safer now , why are there more terrorist attempts now then before? I mean when was the last time the Boston Marathon was bombed?
Before 9/11 there was what 1 maybe 2 islamo terrorist attacks/ attempts in 15 years. Now there are 1 or 2 a year.
You see I have a memory I dont require CNN to tell me a clean up story. I been awake and paying attention all along. They can polish bull plop all they want, but I dont have to think its anything other than bull plop.
So one guy is dead the "one responsible for the whole thing" yep he is dead. How many soldiers lives did we trade in on that deal? ...10,000? More? Hum thats a good trade? Not.
Now cause weak handling or this pathetic mess. Russia dont mind harboring a wanted man. Syria uses chemial weapons to test us and the Soviets step up and tell us butt out. While muslim terrorist organisations stir up civil wars all over the middle east.
This all because our politicians have fumbled the ball so baddly its not even on the playing field anymore.
Sweet America from the biggest tough guy on the block to cant stand up to one small player in just 2 presidents.
I have no faith in human perfectability. I think that human exertion will have no appreciable effect upon humanity. Man is now only more active - not more happy - nor more wise, than he was 6000 years ago.
Edgar Allan Poe
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If Al-Qaeda is so decimated, how is it that they are looking like they maytake over Syria? And our wonderful leadership wants to............help? Because its ok to blow up children as long as ya dont use poisonous gas, or chemical weapons. Just use conventional bombs and blow them to bits or let them die slowly under the rubble of a ruined building .
I have no faith in human perfectability. I think that human exertion will have no appreciable effect upon humanity. Man is now only more active - not more happy - nor more wise, than he was 6000 years ago.
Edgar Allan Poe
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Crazy Horse, I share your frustration, but this war has been going on for 32 years, it will continue for at least another 32. Not to worry, after the USA fermented "arab spring" Russia will be the sphere of influence in the middle east, heh they got our back.
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
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Crazy Horse, I share your frustration, but this war has been going on for 32 years, it will continue for at least another 32. Not to worry, after the USA fermented "arab spring" Russia will be the sphere of influence in the middle east, heh they got our back.
A very good argument could be made that this has been going on for 1,400 years with only some short periods of relative peace.
We all like to think of ourselves as rugged individualists. But when push comes to shove most of us are sheep who do what we are told. Worst of all, a lot of us become unpaid agents of whoever is controlling the agenda by enforcing the current dogma on the few rugged individualists who actually exist.
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So Wade. Are ya still wonderin' why nobody started a thread about 9/11 around here???
(...'cause all THIS is why!)
 Doesn't take much, does it?
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Hot climate,no booze,ugly women and your best bud bein a camel,,,,,,,,,,,. Comon nown that would make anyone bat$hit crazy 
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Choices have consequences, and we have made some bad ones over the past 12 years.
But hell we all know its much more important to decide what tank badge we should use and should we paint our bike metalic rootbeer and satin cream.............what color pinstripes go with that? Seafoam? Sherbert orange? Huh .
I have no faith in human perfectability. I think that human exertion will have no appreciable effect upon humanity. Man is now only more active - not more happy - nor more wise, than he was 6000 years ago.
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Well Chad, I personally wouldn't say those are more important decisions. Only ones that we have the ability to control at a personal level. And yes, a lil bit or orange would look mighty fine in there, sort of a classic "A&W" theme.
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Maybe a competition orange layed down like a shadow under an acrylic type of cream to give it a dimensional look.
I have no faith in human perfectability. I think that human exertion will have no appreciable effect upon humanity. Man is now only more active - not more happy - nor more wise, than he was 6000 years ago.
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