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One of my employees at work was riding his motorcycle to work on Tuesday when he came upon a red light. He stopped at the light and a vehicle came up behind him and ran him over. He was stuck under the vehicle until the fire department arrived to lift the vehicle off of him. He was pretty torn up. He was rushed to the hospital where they had to do emergency surgery. The bad news is that his spine was severed and the doctors give a bleak prognosis that he will probably never walk again. He is still in ICU and it happened near a good trama center (Allegheny General Hospital in PGH). We have not heard what was in the police report yet as to how it happened but people really need to pay attention and watch out for motorcycles. The individual that was run over is in his late 30's and to go from being very active to being stuck in a wheelchair for the rest of his life would be devastating.
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So sorry to here that. I was once sitting at a red light at a busy intersection and looked in my mirrors in time to see that I was gonna get hit from behind. I had all my dirty laundry bungeed to the seat. It absorbed the impact and, somehow, the rush hour cross traffic did not hit me.
I ran back to tear the guy a new one and he had such stupid, lifeless eyes and responses that I just took his insurance info and left. It would have been like chewing out a squirrel.
I hope your friend is able to move forward from this. That's a tough one.
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So sorry to hear about this. Prayers for your friend. After too many close calls, I installed Hyperlites and they have really helped. www.hyperlites.comThese P3 Lights are also outstanding. Going to get some for the front. http://www.lights.skenedesign.com
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Man that's tough, my thought and prayers are with him.
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So sorry to hear about this. Prayers for your friend.
After too many close calls, I installed Hyperlites and they have really helped. www.hyperlites.com
These P3 Lights are also outstanding. Going to get some for the front. http://www.lights.skenedesign.com
He didn't have those but he wore reflective gear on his jacket helmet. I actually thought we went a little overboard with it but I guess even with all that it was still not enough for somebody to see him sitting at a stop light. It really is a shame. It has been pretty somber at work the last couple days.
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Can't see any of that stuff if you aren't looking outside.
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sorry to hear about your friend, real shame, senseless and avoidable. Best wishes for him and his family man, sucks, sucks sucks.
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Can't see any of that stuff if you aren't looking outside.
Right you are, probably some clown-bag texting or something. Hopefully your friend recovers from all this.
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I'm so sorry to hear that.It would be so shattering to lose the use of your legs.I can't imagine how bad he must feel.That's terrible.My thoughts are with him.
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Very sorry to hear this sad news about your co-worker, Ronald.
However, I'd like to add a thought to your thought here of: "but people really need to pay attention and watch out for motorcycles", and which is very true of course, but I think is often only half the issue here.
And what I'd like to add is the thought:
"But motorcyclists also need to always pay attention to their rear view mirrors as they slow to a stop at a red light, and until they recognize the car behind them is also slowing to a stop."
(...I know doing this very thing once allowed me to maneuver out of the lane enough to have the cager coming up behind miss me as his car didn't stop braking until he was 10 feet past the crosswalk, anyway)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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That's horrible. Its when I hear of such things I seriously question whether riding is worth the risk. I rided 2 up with my daughter all the time,the what ifs really make me struggle at times. I wish your coworker well.
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Very sorry to hear this. Best wishes for this fellow.
Please folks, ride safe.
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Very sorry to hear this sad news about your co-worker, Ronald.
However, I'd like to add a thought to your thought here of: "but people really need to pay attention and watch out for motorcycles", and which is very true of course, but I think is often only half the issue here.
And what I'd like to add is the thought:
"But motorcyclists also need to always pay attention to their rear view mirrors as they slow to a stop at a red light, and until they recognize the car behind them is also slowing to a stop."
(...I know doing this very thing once allowed me to maneuver out of the lane enough to have the cager coming up behind miss me as his car didn't stop braking until he was 10 feet past the crosswalk, anyway)
I agree and has saved me more than once too. This doesn't take away from the tragedy or in any way imply it was the riders fault. The Dbag should have been paying attention to driving even if there was no rider it was still a red light, maybe some poor victim in cross traffic would have been hit instead if the rider wasn't there, or some kid in a cross walk , etc...
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If we don't run off he road on our own, the number 1 cause of MC accidents, left turn and rear end are the big ones.
There is practically nothing you can do to prevent them.
Sorry to hear about your friend.
I try to aggravate one person a day. Today may be your day.
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Best Wishes for your friend. This is a dangerous thing that we enjoy.
Once things settle down - and if it becomes necessary, let us know if a fund is established to assist with his recovery.
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Unbelievable. So sad. Best wishes for his recovery. Had to be a texting incident. We all have to set examples and turn the dang things off.
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This is terrible news. Please keep us posted.
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A few weeks ago a friend of mine was hit on his Harley by a texting driver. He gets out of the hospital tomorrow. Broken pelvis, smashed shoulder plus lots of more minor injuries. Why isn't texting while driving treated like drunken driving? Why shouldn't someone texting when they hit someone be charged with manslaughter if someone dies or depraved indifference if they survive? When some seventeen year old cheerleader goes to prison for ten years or a thirtyfive year old Realtor gets twenty to life maybe people will start to wake up. Community service or weekends in jail for six months don't cut it.
We all like to think of ourselves as rugged individualists. But when push comes to shove most of us are sheep who do what we are told. Worst of all, a lot of us become unpaid agents of whoever is controlling the agenda by enforcing the current dogma on the few rugged individualists who actually exist.
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Why isn't texting while driving treated like drunken driving?
Because the cops do it too. It's been hushed "pending investigation", but a local cop was texting while driving on the wrong side of the road and ran a citizen off the road. Official word is that it will take a month to get their phone records. If it were the other way around, it would take an hour or less.
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Why isn't texting while driving treated like drunken driving?
Because the cops do it too. It's been hushed "pending investigation", but a local cop was texting while driving on the wrong side of the road and ran a citizen off the road. Official word is that it will take a month to get their phone records. If it were the other way around, it would take an hour or less.
I've seen so many cops texting or typing on their computers as their cruisers drift into surrounding lanes that I've long since given up hope. Every 'internal investigation' anytime, anywhere always exonerates the cop so...you're at the mercy of their stupidity.
Watch out. You're on your own.
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Very sorry to hear this sad news about your co-worker, Ronald.
And what I'd like to add is the thought:
"But motorcyclists also need to always pay attention to their rear view mirrors as they slow to a stop at a red light, and until they recognize the car behind them is also slowing to a stop."
Hard News to take about your coworker & my prayers go out to him for recovery in any measure.
I agree with Dwight completely, but situational awareness is one of the essential skills for every rider....keeping an eye in the ol' rearviews helped me escape a speeding Caddie on 50 hwy as I was riding home from a day's "fun run" in the Ozarks just last weekend.
The Caddie was in the passing lane & i was tooling along in the "slow" lane @ 70 mph. The Caddie blew past me at something approaching 100 then swerved into my lane what would have been by inches in front of me(at best..but probably woulda clipped my front tire and sent me to an untimely end) if I hadn't applied the brake at just the right time.
I urge all, to keep checking the mirrors not only just at stops, but as you are rolling along as well.....an aware motorcyclist is an alive biker! 
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Another thing, besides watching your mirrors while stopped, is to NOT stop in the middle of the lane. Stay to one side. Besides giving you a little more wiggle room, it gives the car driver someplace to go if he happens to notice you at the last second but doesn't have room to stop.
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Besides the fact of keeping your tires away from the oil which cars drop onto that area of the lane.
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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That's horrible. Its when I hear of such things I seriously question whether riding is worth the risk. I rided 2 up with my daughter all the time,the what ifs really make me struggle at times. I wish your coworker well.
Rough story. I don't try to think much about the "what ifs". You can't ride and enjoy it if you give it too much thought. But the "what ifs" have caused me to give up riding at night altogether. Man, I hate it when I hear stories like this. Just thinking about the life changes this fella will have to make, makes me sick.
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Another thing, besides watching your mirrors while stopped, is to NOT stop in the middle of the lane. Stay to one side. Besides giving you a little more wiggle room, it gives the car driver someplace to go if he happens to notice you at the last second but doesn't have room to stop.
I've taken the opposite tack when there are cars ahead of me, I stop in the middle about 25 feet back. That gives me the option of going either way around the car in front of me and some room to maneuver.
The important thing is to always give yourself a way out in every situation. How you do it is up to you.
I've also put additional lights on the back that flash when braking.
We all like to think of ourselves as rugged individualists. But when push comes to shove most of us are sheep who do what we are told. Worst of all, a lot of us become unpaid agents of whoever is controlling the agenda by enforcing the current dogma on the few rugged individualists who actually exist.
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Update on fellow employee: A couple of us supervisors went to the hospital and got to visit and talk for a while as he is now out of ICU. He explained what happened rather than the story that we got. He came over a hill with 2 lanes in each direction and he was in left lane, the light was green but 2 vehicles were stopped and the front vehicle was attempting to turn left, so he had to come down hard on the brakes and couldn’t get over into the right lane on account of traffic. He continued to attempt to get into left lane because he did not like the situation he was in but before he knew it a vehicle came over the hill and he also had to come down hard on the brakes but could not stop in time. That is how he was hit. I am sure that most of us have been in that situation before one time or another as I know I have but I have been fortunate to be able to get off on the berm and still keep an eye on the rearview mirror.
I was really amazed at the way he talked about it and just talked like it was just another day, all this and he knows that he has really no chance of ever walking again. He is paralyzed from the waist down. I know they have made huge advancements in what people that have these disabilities can do but I won’t lie I would be in deep depression for a long time if it were me, but I give him a lot of credit to be so positive. We are already talking and trying to figure out a way to bring him back as a civilian to give him a chance to be productive in another capacity at the facility if he would be interested. I don’t know if we can make this happen but we will definitely make an honest effort to make it happen. This will take a while as he has a lot of therapy to go thru and to learn how to use items that he will need to go thru life still have some kind of quality of life and such.
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I think that I would not only be depressed but angry too if I were in that position.
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