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Ever have this starting issue?
#513934 03/08/2013 11:40 PM
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jryan #513935 03/08/2013 11:42 PM
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My battery was dying. I know thats what the what the rapping is. Talking about it free wheeling.

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Looks like the SPRAG CLUTCH in the starter drive gear mechanism is slipping. The Sprag is a one way clutch that locks up one way and slips the other. It's what allows the starter gear train to remain permanently engaged to the crank without the need of a bendix starter drive. It's the housing attached to the gear which sits between the clutch drum gear (ring gear on most other engines) and idler gear that you had your boot against. Not sure if it is serviceable. BTW, make sure you check the case bushing on that small idler gear and install the wave washer when you reassemble. The case has been known to split on the idler gear support.

I think Grzegoz also had this problem in this POST

Oh, one other thing, a low battery has been known to cause the sprag to slip on some of the other fellows rides. Don't really know why???


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Gregger #513937 03/09/2013 3:08 PM
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yes my sprag clutch gone bad but there was no damage to casing.....


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Oh, one other thing, a low battery has been known to cause the sprag to slip on some of the other fellows rides. Don't really know why???




It's because a low battery causes the sprag clutch to not fully engage the sprongs or "dogs" into their corresponding slots, and thus wears the tips of those sprongs down prematurely.

(...I've had a '95 Sprint sittin' in my garage with this same problem for over 5 years now, and because of where the starter and sprag clutch assembly sits inside the engine cases in the first generation or "T300" series Hinckley Triumph Triples and Fours, thus making it necessary to remove the engine from the frame and split the engine cases to get to it, my Sprint has sat in corner of my garage waiting for me to tackle this project...this sprag clutch issue was a common problem with the early Hinckley Triumphs, and thus a warning was issued back in the day to keep the battery charged up on these bikes, which unfortunately I only heard of after I had tried to start my Sprint too many times with a low battery charge)


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jryan #513940 03/09/2013 4:57 PM
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Oh hot damn. That makes tons of sence cause I had a ****** battery for the first half of the summer and had to jump it all the time. I have new parts on the way
NO CRACKS! Thank God.

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Grzegorz #513941 03/09/2013 5:18 PM
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Gregorz you when yours went did it make a revolution or two, snap then spin?

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jryan #513942 03/10/2013 3:34 AM
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yes it did revolution... sometimes even started after many attempts but gave it to dealer and they told me that was a sprag clutch ....at this point bike had about 13000 miles on the clock......over 81000 now and no issues

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Grzegorz #513943 03/10/2013 1:35 PM
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Ahh OK, thanks. Mines doing the same then. 30,000 on this one.

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what year is your bike?


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Grzegorz #513945 03/11/2013 7:56 AM
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Another reason I wish we had a kick start.


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The_Dog33 #513946 03/11/2013 8:17 AM
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Agreed 10000000%


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