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My new sickle rag says that Triumph is developing a new "street tracker" that kinda looks like a fusion of the triple front end, including Showa inverted fork, and the Bonnie/Thruxton rear. They speculate that a new, beefed up version of the Bonnie motor is in the works along with 17 in tyres. The tank is hacked off in the front, which makes it look more like a tracker to me.
Looking for pictures online that will work here. What a hoot that could be...
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Cool, Ryan. Being a real fan of the Street Tracker look, I'm not only intrigued by that news, but also this news about the "new beefed up version of the Bonnie motor" being in the works. 
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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I wonder if it will end up being something like this. Article 
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I doubt Triumph Corp would make a bike that "bare bones", Keith. I'm thinkin' it would probably be more along the lines of the now unfortunately no longer produced Harley XR1200 bikes, which kinda sorta resembled their famous XR750 racers, but were a bit heavier.
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Could it finally happen, an 1100 or 1200cc, Bonnie. Oh baby!! 
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Do you think they would do like Harley and make it so you could get the 865 or upgrade to a larger size? This is actually an exciting rumor.
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Best picture I could find, but I did see a better one in MCN paper. No mention of a larger engine that I recall, would be a nice surprise though. Looks like a tricked up Thruxton. USD forks, 2 into 1 arrow exhaust. 
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I have no idea what they would be thinking with that photo. A tracker was a dirt or wood circular track bike. No weight at all with straight down pegs for left foot down riding in an almost constant slide. Very thin and light. I am looking at a pic of a cafe racer.
If they build a Scrambler/Thruxton looks like some sort of tracker bike they need to use the triple motors. IMHO they make plenty of go slow bikes already.
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My March issue of Motorcyclist has a side view picture and an article... It's clearly a prototype pic with spoked rear wheel (but not front), hacked off gas tank to help with steering trials, etc. Quotes: "..., but rumors suggest Triumph is working on a bigger-capacity version of its parallel twin..." "Triumph recently trademarked the term 'Street Tracker,' so that name is almost certain to appear on a new model soon--though whether the bodywork tends towards cafe racer or flat-track cues remains to be seen." I think the Street Tracker just jumped to the top of "my next Triumph" list. But that list changes almost daily - 
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Yep, that picture in the mag. clearly shows the Triple front-end. A 1200cc Bonnie would be something that I don't want to spend too much time considering. I am thinking a Thruxton replacement. Why would they keep both? Quote:
My March issue of Motorcyclist has a side view picture and an article... It's clearly a prototype pic with spoked rear wheel (but not front), hacked off gas tank to help with steering trials, etc.
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"..., but rumors suggest Triumph is working on a bigger-capacity version of its parallel twin..."
"Triumph recently trademarked the term 'Street Tracker,' so that name is almost certain to appear on a new model soon--though whether the bodywork tends towards cafe racer or flat-track cues remains to be seen."
I think the Street Tracker just jumped to the top of "my next Triumph" list. But that list changes almost daily -
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Yep, that picture in the mag. clearly shows the Triple front-end. A 1200cc Bonnie would be something that I don't want to spend too much time considering.
I am thinking a Thruxton replacement. Why would they keep both?
Ryan, if you're talkin' about why Triumph might wish to keep the 865cc version of the Bonnie line and then also introduce a larger, say, 1000-1200cc version of the air-cooled(hopefully) parallel twin, then I think the primary reason they would or might do that would be......to have or keep a "Beginner Line" of motorcycles in their inventory.
Yeah, THAT'S right, I said "Beginner Line" here, folks...SORRY! Because any motorcycle which makes less than 60BHP at the rear wheel in stock form would or should never overpower most riders new to the sport. YEP, sorry, but face facts here folks. Our machines, and in fact all of the present Bonneville lineup, can be and often are purchased by Newbies and/or those out there with a lot less saddle time than you and I and most of us here have under our belts.
(...and now you can all grab your pitchforks and torches and head over to Sedona and hang me in effigy in front of my house for sayin' such a "blasphemous" thing!!!) 
(...THOUGH, if you can WAIT to do that until May 31st of this year, you could partake of the Southwest Triumph Fest at the very same time!!!) 
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Dwight, I have no idea why they would chase a Thruxton replacement with a 360 865. The cafe racer doesn't sell well now, changing it up will do very little in sales numbers. A tracker look would also be a novelty item. Look at our calendar and rider bikes photos. I think over 50% are baggers. No mass of consumers are clamoring for a stripped down skinny bike with no creature comforts or power.
I could be wrong, I am with some frequency.
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Wouldn't it make more sense for Corporate Triumph to offer a 965cc with a better cam, ign. timing, fuel/exhaust flow option with the same motor mounts as the existing Bonneville line up? Ala the 1600/1700 TBirds, a kit that could come as a pre installed factory option, or a change out upgrade for us under powered folks. Please not, just a paint scheme and decals, kinda like the L.E. Steve McQueen Special, feh. Isn't a ex Hardley honcho, in charge of decisions of this nature? I personally invite aforementioned honcho, to go ahead and impress us this time. I am just talking about the motor side of the equation here, better brakes and suspension are good too.
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Yep, that picture in the mag. clearly shows the Triple front-end. A 1200cc Bonnie would be something that I don't want to spend too much time considering.
I am thinking a Thruxton replacement. Why would they keep both?
Ryan, if you're talkin' about why Triumph might wish to keep the 865cc version of the Bonnie line and then also introduce a larger, say, 1000-1200cc version of the air-cooled(hopefully) parallel twin, then I think the primary reason they would or might do that would be......to have or keep a "Beginner Line" of motorcycles in their inventory.
Yeah, THAT'S right, I said "Beginner Line" here, folks...SORRY! Because any motorcycle which makes less than 60BHP at the rear wheel in stock form would or should never overpower most riders new to the sport. YEP, sorry, but face facts here folks. Our machines, and in fact all of the present Bonneville lineup, can be and often are purchased by Newbies and/or those out there with a lot less saddle time than you and I and most of us here have under our belts.
(...and now you can all grab your pitchforks and torches and head over to Sedona and hang me in effigy in front of my house for sayin' such a "blasphemous" thing!!!)
(...THOUGH, if you can WAIT to do that until May 31st of this year, you could partake of the Southwest Triumph Fest at the very same time!!!)
They'll keep an "entry-level" Bonnie and then whatever this is, if it is real. I am not going to spend too much time drooling over it just yet, as I want just about everything already.....
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So, as they are "beginner" bikes, then it makes the term "UPGRADE" a accurate and fitting one.
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Yep Todd, the answer to question here is a QUALIFIED "yes".
And the reason I added the word "qualified" here is because I believe any Hinchley Bonneville that has a displacenment over 865cc and/or has hotter cams and/or upgraded carbs, all of which are primarily available ONLY from the Aftermarket(as Triumph never saw fit to offer a factory Big Bore option for the Bonnie line as you know, and which Ryk made mention of above AND which I've lamented about for years on this website) OR for that matter, any Triumph model which FROM THE FACTORY puts out over 60BHP, which ALL other present Triumph models do, then yes, that kind of bike would be an "upgrade"...and especially in the realm of "performance".
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Have to admit, the thought of a 1200cc America is Heck Yeah! Alas, the 790cc America is all that's needed. Would like a Trophy though.
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...Alas, the 790cc America is all that's needed.
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Sorry guys but...no way, Jose!
These babies would be PERFECT with about 80BHP.
(...and all the PASSING power one should ever need!)
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Yep, they are at least 20 horses short of fast. 
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No one said anything about HP, we just said "790 is ok with me".  (kinda like breast augmentation. Bigger makes our eyes pop out, but anything over a mouthful is waste.  ) 
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Yep, they are at least 20 horses short of fast.
Guess a lot of it has to do with "State-of-tune" and "Power-to-weight ratio" 
But, there's always Harley's for those who have to have bigger. 
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A lot has to do with just before you hit wall. The closer you get the faster it is coming at you.
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No one said anything about HP, we just said "790 is ok with me".
(kinda like breast augmentation. Bigger makes our eyes pop out, but anything over a mouthful is waste. )
Say what, that's an old line but it's a dang lie
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No one said anything about HP, we just said "790 is ok with me".
Hey erle, are you SURE you don't wanna sing that line to the tune of The Doobie Brothers' "Jesus Is Just Alright(With Me)"???
(...OH YEEEEEEEAH!)
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I DO like my Stratoliner Deluxe's 100 HP/127 FT LB of Torque. I think that is an upgrade.
That said, I do love the feel of the Triumph, it offers a completely different feel, a great change of pace.
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It is a true joy to wring the 790 out all the time, though, even though she never breaks a sweat doing it. Running over 80 mph everywhere and not even breathing hard.
I'm afraid a lot more ponies might not get as much exercise for the kind of running around I do.
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Yep, I know what you guys mean here, and I didn't mean to denigrate our rides. These beautiful babies are VERY well made, reliable, smooth-running, and very good handling for a stretched-out/long wheelbase motorcycle.
It's just that the longer I own my BA, and while I still love her and will probably NEVER sell her, I sometimes think of a comparison test with one of the Sporsters(can't remember if it was the 883 or the 1200) that was in either CW or Motorcylist magazine years ago, and in which even though they DID ultimately pick the BA as their choice, there was sort of a caveat at the beginning of the article that read: "While the Triumph Bonneville America LOOKS like "The Wild One", its performance is definitely more "The Mild One.", and I believe there's no denying the truth of those words.
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Yeah but, why was a 650 just fine back in the day? Was it because we old farts didn't weight as much? 
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Yeah but, why was a 650 just fine back in the day? Was it because we old farts didn't weight as much?
Well Keith, I think that IS some of it here, but the other aspect would be the ever advancement of technology and getting more power out of smaller and smaller displacement.
I mean, back in the day you've mentioned here, a 650cc motorcycle was considered "big" because it was putting out around 45 or so hoursepower, which at the time was quite a bit in comparison to all motorcycles sold at the time, AND at a time when out-and-out racing machines we're at the 80-90BHP mark. But now days, even 600cc sportbikes that one can walk into a dealership and plunk down money for, are averaging well over 100BHP, and when out-and-out racers are now reaching 200BHP or more output.
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Yeah but, why was a 650 just fine back in the day? Was it because we old farts didn't weight as much?
We weren't getting near the 790/865 s longevity and or mileage out of those great old motors either. Ever had your Zener Diode crap out in the middle of the night and a hundred miles from anywhere? All your oil leak out of your in-frame oil-tank because of an inferior factory weld?  The good old days, weren't always all that good, but I still wouldn't trade them for love, power or money.
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They have better pics in motorcyclist this month.
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We weren't getting near the 790/865 s longevity and or mileage out of those great old motors either.
Well, that's true but man, did those motors have attitude. I can never forget the 'personality' my ol' '59 Tiger had.
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Yeah Keith. One thing we ALL can probably agree on here is that motorcyles that have engines that vibrate enough to create the "legend" of the "Triumph Front Wheel Dance" while they're parked on their center stands, AND that ALSO have electrical wiring furnished by the "Prince of Darkness", sure have "Attitude" and a "Personality" alright!!!  (...don't get me wrong here though, old Triumphs WERE, ARE and always WILL BE cool as hell, and BEE-YOU-TEE-FULL motorcycles!!!) 
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(...don't get me wrong here though, old Triumphs WERE, ARE and always WILL BE cool as hell, and BEE-YOU-TEE-FULL motorcycles!!!)
YES IN DEED!!!
Those 650's are to Triumph as the Knuckle is to H.D.
How do you say it? BEE-YOU-TEA-FULL!
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How do you say it? BEE-YOU-TEA-FULL!
Or if you are texting it would be... b u t full. (Sorry guys, I take no responsibility for how that came out.)
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These babies would be PERFECT with about 80BHP.
(...and all the PASSING power one should ever need!)
So true!
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And YOU would know about this, wouldn't ya Z! I mean, that's just about what your baby is puttin' out now, isn't it?
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OH, and btw...I've just read the latest issue of Motorcyclist, which as Chucky above mentioned has this write-up in it. And yeah, as Ron above mentioned, the pics in the article definitely are more "Cafe Racer" than what we Yanks(especially) would consider a "Street Tracker". And so, I'm hoping here when Triumph DOES come out with this new bike and IF it looks like the pictures shown in that article, then that they don't misname it by using their newly copyrighted "Street Tracker" nomenclature. THOUGH, seein' as how the company can sometimes appear to be "just wide of the mark" when it comes to the American market(think: NO COOLING FINS on their latest Thunderbird incarnations here! ), I have a sneaky suspicious that the boys in Hinckley WILL name their newest Cafe Racer-looking motorcycle a "Street Tracker" my mistake! And, evidently NOT realizing that motorcycles that look like THIS...  ...are the TRUE "Street Trackers" of the world. (...and yeah, if you're wondering out there, THIS baby IS mine!!!)
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Yes I can see where historicaly the name would not fit the style of bike, if it is styled as a "cafe racer". Royal Enfield or Moto Guzzi probably have that name. What you would call Street tracker style racing would be known as scrambling ( already got one of them in the line). We also have Grass Tracking here, racing in a field of grass would you believe.  That would be an intresting name! When racing on hard top roads, quite popular here, it can be Street racing, Road racing or even a Track day. I dont know what happend to "Export or Die" apart from them sending all the good stuff overseas.
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