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As reported in the Sun Times from Myrtle Beach. Interesting thing to point out here is the city there is doing their best to end the rally that is held there every year.
Deadliest Daytona Bike Week ever: 18 deaths
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Bike Week in Daytona Beach, Fla., proved to be the deadliest in the rally's 65-year history.
Eighteen motorcyclists died in accidents around the region, the Daytona Beach News-Journal reported Monday.
Authorities attributed the spike in deaths to the sunny weather, which caused a rise in Bike Week attendance.
Weather and turnout were reported to be good for the event, with few complaints from residents about noise.
Myrtle Beach's spring motorcycle rally unofficially spans May 12-21. Five people were killed in accidents during last year's event. There were 15 fatalities in 2003 during the May Harley and Atlantic Beach Bikefest rallies.
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holy cow - 18 dead - That's a crazy big number. how many attendees do we think.
Wojo: Did you make it back ok?
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Authorities attributed the spike in deaths to the sunny weather, which caused a rise in Bike Week attendance.
Wojo is fine. Yeah, that is a typical response from authorities. How about it being too easy to get a driver's licence (cage and bike)? How about letting cars down Main Street during busy times? How about the whole thing being about drinking instead of about riding?
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How about the whole thing being about drinking instead of about riding?
yeah, loud and clear on that...any stupid reason to avoid addressing the real reasons...i gotta say here that i like a beer and/or a brandy as much as the next guy...but liquor is probably the cause of more accidents, suicides, deaths, family breakdowns and general mayhem than any other single thing I can think of including cancer (all kinds), war, and terrorism combined...and it's an allowed substance! Don't get me started...oops, too late... 
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Sad news.
Over here ther authorities were slating bike riding as too dangerous due to the increase each year of rider deaths and serious injury.
They neglected to mention that yes the incidents increased year on year but that was because bike purchases / rders increased year on year.
I bet if half the country bought a Ford Mondeo, the number of Ford Mondeo accidents would rise ....
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I just talked to a friend that just returned from bike week today and she said there was 20 deaths so far.
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What the heck is a Ford Mondeo? Charlie
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Euro name for the Ford Contour.
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This is the very reason I try to avoid rallies. To many novice riders and/or to liquered up to ride. I prefer to ride with people I know- that are sober and know how to ride.
Didn't buy into the hype, you can keep the change.
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The Sad Truth About Motorcycle Crashes
90% of riders involved in motorcycle crashes have not taken any motorcycle safety training course
33% of riders killed in motorcycle crashes are not properly licensed
60% of fatal motorcycle crashes occur on curvy rural roads
Alcohol use is involved in a majority of single vehicle motorcycle crashes.
People aged 20 - 29 are the largest percentage of riders involved in motorcycle crashes
Copyright, somewhere I found this.
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i think eddieb is right: novice riders and mix it w/ booze and there are problems. i'd like to see a breakdown on the type/make of bikes...
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tatkin,
I agree with all except.
I think i remember reading somewhere that the largest percentage of riders involved in accidents are the Born Again riders in their 40' and 50's who are returning to riding after a long absence. Most of these returning riders have a large amount of desposable income and buy bikes that are bigger then they can handle and exceed their own riding limitations.
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I have heard something similar. The majority being new riders in their 40-50's buy a bike way too big for their abilities because they are suposedly cooler and because they have the cash, then they only ride them at events and not as transportation.
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From the 2001 NHTSA Report. Page 11. A copy can be found on http://www.webbikeworld.com/Motorcycle-Safety/809-360.pdf"An increase in motorcyclist fatalities has been observed only in the 40 year old and over age group. Conversely the number of fatalities in the under-20 and 20-29 year old age groups declined considerably between 1990 and 1999. Fatalities in the 30-39 year old age group remained proportionally the same over this time period. But the 40-49 and over-49 year old age groups showed an increase between 1990 and 1999. The percentage of fatalities in the 40-49 year old age group increased from 9 percent in 1990 to 24 percent, a factor of 2.7. The over-49 year old age group fatality percentage for the same years increased from 5 in 1990 to 15 in 1999, a factor of 3. Table 4 shows the number and percent of motorcyclist fatalities by age groups for the last 10 years. However, examining Table 4 shows there are still proportionally more fatalities in the 20- 29 year old age group than in the under-20, 30-39, 40-49, and over-49 year old age groups from 1990 to 1999. This indicates that the 20-29 year old age group is still the leading at risk age group in terms of the number of motorcyclist fatalities. However, the number of fatalities in the 30-39 and 40-49 year old age groups are fast approaching the number of fatalities in the 20-29 year old age group. The number of fatalities in the 40-49 year old age group has increased from 138 in 1990 to 271 in 1999, an increase of 96 percent. Similarly, the number of fatalities in the over- 49 year old age group has increased from 67 in 1990 to 176 in 1999, an increase of 163 percent. In fact, the number of fatalities in the 40 and over year old age group has increased from 205 in 1990 to 447 in 1999, an increase of 118 percent. The number of fatalities in the 40-49 and over-49 year old age groups has increased each year since 1995. The fatalities in the 40 and over year old age group have doubled, from 219 in 1995 to 447 in 1999, an increase of 104 percent."
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I have heard something similar. The majority being new riders in their 40-50's buy a bike way too big for their abilities because they are suposedly cooler and because they have the cash, then they only ride them at events and not as transportation.
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Hum. Confused. Am I what you are describing? 
I raced dirt bikes and road enduro as a teenager (13-18yrs old), garaged my '73 Triumph when I got married (age 21-yep to young) and just resumed riding again 2 years ago at age 45 when I bought a new Triumph that wouldn't leak and smell like old stuff. I have never ridden to an event (this year will be an exception) but ride eveyday I can to work. Weekend riding is usually limited to 30-50 miles getting lost in the country roads.
Should I have gotten something smaller than a 790cc? Maybe a Japanese made bike?
Hum. I will have to give trading my green machine in for a smaller bike some thought.. ...nah.
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I am one, I bought a Glide. It was ok while I was sober but I know, at least 5 times I must of had that thing on it's side. I might be close to 160lb now but then I was hangin at 150. I admit it, to big a bike for me. Quote:
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I have heard something similar. The majority being new riders in their 40-50's buy a bike way too big for their abilities because they are suposedly cooler and because they have the cash, then they only ride them at events and not as transportation.
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Hum. Confused. Am I what you are describing?
I raced dirt bikes and road enduro as a teenager (13-18yrs old), garaged my '73 Triumph when I got married (age 21-yep to young) and just resumed riding again 2 years ago at age 45 when I bought a new Triumph that wouldn't leak and smell like old stuff. I have never ridden to an event (this year will be an exception) but ride eveyday I can to work. Weekend riding is usually limited to 30-50 miles getting lost in the country roads.
Should I have gotten something smaller than a 790cc? Maybe a Japanese made bike?
Hum. I will have to give trading my green machine in for a smaller bike some thought.....nah.
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I think the older age group is the largest GROWING portion of the fatalities, not THE largest portion of the fatalities.
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There are way too many plusses for a person that has not ridden years to get a bike again versus the minuses. I had not ridden in 20 years when I got my 03 TBA but I know my limitations. When I bought my new bike, I even gave up the enjoyment of riding it home from the dealer because I was not ready to ride the route necessary to get it home, I had the dealer deliver it to me. When I was ready, I rode it where I was comfortable, at speeds I am comfortable with, and still do 8500 miles later. I will not drink while I am riding, ever, I am a practicing alcoholic at home, but where the bike comes in, I am a practicing teetoteler. TR
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Tom I like your outlook man. Can't wait to ride with you this summer!
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I have been on a bike since 1970, allways fit me though. Until I was peer pressured ino the HOG. Quote:
There are way too many plusses for a person that has not ridden years to get a bike again versus the minuses. I had not ridden in 20 years when I got my 03 TBA but I know my limitations. When I bought my new bike, I even gave up the enjoyment of riding it home from the dealer because I was not ready to ride the route necessary to get it home, I had the dealer deliver it to me. When I was ready, I rode it where I was comfortable, at speeds I am comfortable with, and still do 8500 miles later. I will not drink while I am riding, ever, I am a practicing alcoholic at home, but where the bike comes in, I am a practicing teetoteler. TR
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Pure and Simple:
Too many people(regardless of age) are riding bikes that are too big and/or too powerful for their abilities AND level of experience, due too often to the very phrase Tom used here...."peer pressure"!
Every swingin' dick out there thinks he's "man enough" to ride the lastest greatest piece of machinery on the market, regardless of whether he can fully ultilize it's performance potential or not!
AND....TOO MANY riders forget about(OR have NEVER HEARD of) the "Circle of Danger" out there. That's that imaginary area around your bike that extends further forward the faster you go...where ANYTHING that intrudes into it IS A FREAKIN' DANGER TO YOU!!!
Dwight
(39 consecutive years on two wheels....and almost everytime I've crashed it was usually MY OWN FAULT or I contributed to the unfortunate outcome somehow)
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Someone had posted that the final death toll from Daytona was 20. Can anyone confirm this?
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Hum. Confused. Am I what you are describing?
Absolute opposite of what I was describing.  The ones I am thinking of are mostly the ones that have too much money, are addicted to custom bike building shows and have never owned a bike before in their life. So, they go out and buy the biggest HD they can find, throw it on a trailer and proclaim themselves bikers because they put 100 miles on it a year between Daytona, Sturgis and whatever other event. Consiquently, once at the event they get on it, have really no idea what the heck they are doing and wreck the darn thing in some form or another.
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There are way too many plusses for a person that has not ridden years to get a bike again versus the minuses. I had not ridden in 20 years when I got my 03 TBA but I know my limitations. When I bought my new bike, I even gave up the enjoyment of riding it home from the dealer because I was not ready to ride the route necessary to get it home, I had the dealer deliver it to me. When I was ready, I rode it where I was comfortable, at speeds I am comfortable with, and still do 8500 miles later. I will not drink while I am riding, ever, I am a practicing alcoholic at home, but where the bike comes in, I am a practicing teetoteler. TR
Now that's the way to do it! I am definitley no Valentino Rossi, nor may I ever be one. I ride within my limits. I am always trying to stretch those limits cautiously however in order to become a more skilled rider.
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It was 18, Tom. Here's an article from the Miami Herald published today. The article is heavily slanted but it did report the number...
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Here's an abstract from the National Center for Biotechnology Information
Motorcycle casualties sustained during Daytona Beach Bike Week 2000: lessons learned.
Kanny D, Schieber RA, Jones BH, Ryan GW, Sorensen BJ.
Epidemic Intelligence Service, Epidemiology Program Office, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, US Public Health Service, Department of Health and Human Services, Atlanta, GA 30303, USA. dkanny@dhr.state.ga.us
STUDY OBJECTIVE: In March 2000, an estimated 500,000 people attended an annual motorcycle rally in Daytona Beach, FL, where approximately 64,000 residents live year-round. The media reported 15 deaths during this 10-day event. To more comprehensively assess the extent of trauma and need for emergency medical care, we investigated all motorcycle crashes, regardless of outcome. METHODS: Motorcycle-related crash data from local medical examiner, hospital, emergency medical services (EMS), and police sources were linked. Frequencies of crashes, injuries, hospitalizations, and deaths were determined, and EMS use data were analyzed. RESULTS: During Bike Week 2000, 570 people were involved in 281 motorcycle-related crashes. Two hundred thirty (40%) people were injured, of which 147 (64%) sought treatment in emergency departments, 72 (31%) were hospitalized, and 11 (5%) died. In crashes between motorcycles and passenger cars, individuals exposed as motorcycle occupants were 8.7 times more likely to be injured than car occupants (95% confidence limit 1.7, 15.7). Of 205 EMS dispatches for motorcycle-related crashes, two thirds resulted in transport to an ED. Data needed to assess known risk factors (eg, alcohol use, speed, lack of helmet use) were not routinely ascertained at either the crash site or ED. CONCLUSION: Although fatalities first called attention to the problem, nonfatal injuries outnumbered deaths 20:1. The manpower resources of civil service and health resources could become overwhelmed or exhausted in circumstances in which many people are injured or killed throughout a relatively long period. The situation deserves future study. Better risk factor surveillance is needed to help prevent crashes.
PMID: 12764332 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
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AND....TOO MANY riders forget about(OR have NEVER HEARD of) the "Circle of Danger" out there. That's that imaginary area around your bike that extends further forward the faster you go...where ANYTHING that intrudes into it IS A FREAKIN' DANGER TO YOU!!!
Dwight
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Its my belief that if people wanted to be safe, they would wear the safety gear to make them safe. ATGATT (All The Gear All The Time). There is a lot of feeling that the lifestyle of the motorcycle rider lends itself to freedom, and how can you feel freedom when you have leathers, helmets, eye protection, etc. And safety isn't cool. When you combine this attitude with either youth or lack of experience, and large, powerful motorcycles, the end result can be deadly. I've been riding bikes since I was 9 years old. I was always relatively safe, but went down hard on my VF700 back in my college days. I know that without my helmet, I would likely be dead....and had I survived I wouldn't be nearly as handsome as I am now.  At the time I had shorts on, short sleeves, and sneakers. My shorts were shredded, shoe laces were ripped through on both sneakers at each point where they crossed the top of my shoe, road burn to an extent that you'd just have to survive to have an appreciation of. Safety is more than looking out for other folks, its being prepared for the fact that happenings in life aren't always dictated by our own actions. We can't stop a car from pulling in front of our path. But, we can put ourselves in a position to be able to deal with these happenings. And safety gear is one way. Do I wear all the gear I could? No. But, do I ever ride in shorts (I live in Florida)? No, never. Without a helmet? Never. Do I think it needs to be legislated? I don't know, not really, I'm someone who believes in peoples right to choose. But, why someone would choose to not wear one is beyond me.
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Robert, ALL excellent points!  Now...to answer your question about why some riders would choose not to wear a helmet and/or any other protective gear....it's VERY simple here Bro! YOU'VE got that last line o' yours ALL "BASS-ACKWARDS"! It AIN'T beyond YOU......it's beyond THEM!!! Once I figured this simple little truth out, my WHOLE philosophy changed about helmet legislation. I WAS for it...NOW I'm NOT! AND, I'll give ya a little hint as to why I've had a change o' heart here buddy........ ...Does the name DARWIN ring a bell???!!! Cheers, Dwight (I could be wrong here BUT I THINK I heard somewhere that the Helmet-less Rider is right next to the Galapagos Island Sea Turtle on that Endangered Species List) 
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You know Dwight. I want to agree with you on this one. But i have a problem with it. The problem i have is this. When some numbscull falls of his bike and bangs his/her head on the pavement and then spends the next twenty years in a hosipital bed as a vegitable. My insurance goes up to cover the cost of his medical bills. I have a problem with that.
Just like I have a problem with any government spending my tax dollars on the war on drugs. War on Drugs, now theres a war that cant be won. If some moron wants to deaden their brain with chemicals, go for it. I dont give a frig. So long as every hospital in the land understands that when these dimwits turn up after an overdose they should be told to "Bugger yer off, you got what you asked, now sit/lat and enjoy it.
Who said i was heartless.
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ALL excellent points!
Thanks Dwight! Pavement hurts. As for the legislation goes, I find it absurd that they'll make it a law to wear a seatbelt, but not a helmet. Strange world we live in.
Cheers my friend,
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I hear ya Mark! The ol' tongue was FIRMLY planted in my cheek on that one. But...the older I get, the more I've come to realize that there are "smart" people and there are the "not-so-smart" types. And NO MATTER what ya tell 'em(the latter types, that is)...THEY JUST AIN'T GONNA LISTEN!  So NOW my philosophy is to just sit back and watch people make utterly STUPID decisions and THEN to fire sarcastic little "I Told Ya So"s at 'em! This new found little endevour o' mine, is a complete BOON to MY mental health.(and it's a whole lot o' FUN to boot) I've even coined a NEW WORD for this new-found lack of a compassionate world outlook of mine...."Jerkosophy"(which BTW is NOT to be confused with that OTHER "social science" that's akin to an autoerotic experience) Cheers, Dwight (HEY...whatever works, RIGHT?!)
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You know Dwight. I want to agree with you on this one. But i have a problem with it. The problem i have is this. When some numbscull falls of his bike and bangs his/her head on the pavement and then spends the next twenty years in a hosipital bed as a vegitable. My insurance goes up to cover the cost of his medical bills. I have a problem with that.
Statistically, in the grand scheme of things, this has got to be insignificant. Does anybody have access to real numbers about how many bikers survive accidents yet require some sort of significant continuing care? I'm not just talking veggies, here, but para- and quadrapeligics, amputees, dain bramaged, etc. I have a hard time believing this makes a serious dent in the bottom line of insurance companies, especially when compared to the effects, say, of drunk drivers.
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I hear ya FJ. I think insurance companies (apologies to those who may work for one...) try to make money where they can, and if the fears and missconceptions of the general puplic mean they can work us over, then they will. That being said, my bike insurance is WAY cheaper than the car...
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