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#505428 11/12/2012 5:10 PM
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battery is brand new. diode test on regulator/rectifier shows .555 ohms on all three, and the alternator produces voltage at all three points. still, it won't go above 12.4 volts. wtf am i missing?

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steve0suprem0 #505429 11/12/2012 5:24 PM
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A good wiring harness, good connectors and a good RR.
I fought this problems for years
Check this out upgrade
I finally broke down and did this upgrade a couple months back after several batteries and many headaches over the years. She now puts out 13.3 at idle and charges at 14.3 at 1500 + rpm


It's not speeding till you get pulled over.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bqa1s4jhkQ8
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mikemm03 #505430 11/12/2012 5:29 PM
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this is probably what i'll be using so it's plug and play. my problem is still here, now. everything works. until it's assembled.

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steve0suprem0 #505431 11/12/2012 7:21 PM
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this is probably what i'll be using so it's plug and play. my problem is still here, now. everything works. until it's assembled.



I'm not familiar with that item but Jack's upgrades at Roadstercycles are legendary. He has a few videos posted on his web site and is quick to answer emails> do a bit of research about his kit and the Yamaha R1 RR. Lot's of info on this site as well as Triumphrat.net.
Best decision I've made, wish I could get back all those years of chasing the charging demon.
Be sure to chase down all the connector's. Follow the stator wire to the connector. This has been known to be a problem problem


It's not speeding till you get pulled over.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bqa1s4jhkQ8
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mikemm03 #505432 11/12/2012 8:52 PM
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+1 on the R1 MOSFET from Roadstercycles. It's not just the superior RR, its the heavier gauge wiring, the waterproof heavy duty connectors and the direct battery loom which also make a huge improvement. The hot shot seems to be lacking in all of those areas and cost much more.


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steve0suprem0 #505433 11/12/2012 9:54 PM
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I beat this one to death on my speedmaster.
Details here:
My Chargeing issues and fix.


Do, or do not...There is no try.'- Master Yoda
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TomSpdMstr #505434 11/13/2012 10:59 AM
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I changed out to a MOSFET for over a year now...can't be happier

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SDKimo #505435 11/14/2012 7:30 AM
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okay, i'll do the roadstercycles one. i know they're highly regarded from other bike forums. i should probably do the suzuki too, just for peace of mind.

edit: and might i say, thanks a lot, triumph for running the wires between the motor and the rear mount. now i HAVE to cut the thing.

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steve0suprem0 #505436 11/14/2012 8:15 AM
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No you don't have to cut. I thought I would have to cut because the plug from the stator connector doesn't fit through where the wires go (between the engine and the frame) but If you remove the battery the wires can be removed in their entirety out the side.

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foglefar #505437 11/14/2012 10:25 PM
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Wait... what? Mine goes between the motor and the mount. No way any of the connectors are slipping through there. And my battery is relocated under the seat.

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steve0suprem0 #505438 11/14/2012 10:35 PM
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If you ride a Speedy or America and your battery hasn't been relocated (as with a NARK) then the battery is mounted below the seat on the left side. The following only applies to the OEM position of the battery.

You are correct, the connectors dont fit through the space. If you remove the battery and battery mounting bracket then the wires slide out sideways out the side of the frame. It is hard to see how without removing the battery holder.


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steve0suprem0 #505439 11/14/2012 11:40 PM
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battery is brand new. diode test on regulator/rectifier shows .555 ohms on all three, and the alternator produces voltage at all three points. still, it won't go above 12.4 volts. wtf am i missing?




where are you measuring the voltage and how? I know my '04 shows 14+ volts at the console connectors but I've never measured it at the battery,

My first thought would be connectors.

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Bill #505440 11/15/2012 1:44 AM
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Okay, yeah. Mine is relocated using the homemade bracket from somebody on this board who I can't remember. Dunno if that's a nark or not. Either way, the r/r will have to be cut to get it off, short of unbolting the motor from the mount.

And I'm testing at the battery. At the battery tender plug directly wired to the battery, to be precise.

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steve0suprem0 #505441 11/18/2012 6:43 PM
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alright, so my new r/r should be here tomorrow, are there any suggestions about how i wire it up? my thought was to just attach the plugs to where the stock one connects to.

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steve0suprem0 #505442 11/18/2012 9:06 PM
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If you got the roadstercycle R/R then it should come with its own wiring loom and instructions.

Connect the red positive (with the inline fuse) direct to the battery positive and the black earth either direct to the battery earth (black) or the main battery-to-engine earth which is on the back of the transfer case just in front of where the R/R sits.

The 3 stator wires connect to the same stator outlet plug (but only to the 3 yellow wires in any sequence) or use a new connector for the 3 stator wires if you want to improve on the cheap oem connector. Leave the positive and negative wires in the oem plug unconnected and/or sealed against possible shorting.


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foglefar #505443 11/20/2012 7:53 AM
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my roadstercycle unit came while i was at work. couple hours later and i'm getting 14+ volts with the choke on. and to reaffirm what a fine specimen of humanity jack is, he included my special request of a pic of a dinosaur riding a motorbike on the box. i've got a small collection going.

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steve0suprem0 #505444 11/20/2012 8:25 AM
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Good to hear!

Dinosaurs ?


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foglefar #505445 11/20/2012 4:00 PM
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Good to hear!

Dinosaurs ?




Turtles? (Kansas, 2010)


Blowing gravel off rural roads
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moe #505446 11/20/2012 4:28 PM
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i just tossed the idea into the comments section once, a few orders back. most people comply.

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steve0suprem0 #505447 11/20/2012 4:42 PM
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What vendor was it that gave you (was it you?) that hand penciled dinosaur a ways back?


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moe #505448 11/20/2012 8:22 PM
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British customs. Jack actually photo shopped one together and printed it, bit its probably a bit too small to post a pic. And some chinese company sent a pretty cool one of a dinosaur jumping a dirt bike, also too small for a pic.


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