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question; myBA/rides a bit stffer/than my shadow ?
#493054 06/17/2012 8:07 AM
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I have a 2004 BA, It is more fun to ride thanmy 2003 honda ace shadow / you might say the ACEs a liitle mushy.which to me is great............. thats the ride i like.Something has to be done, to make this BA ride more like the shadow.Has any one any suggestions that might help me decide what i need to do? thanks for any help. bob s

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Re: question; myBA/rides a bit stffer/than my shadow ?
bsa_bob #493055 06/17/2012 8:19 AM
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Tell us which shocks you have. To date, the smoothet shocks I've ridden have been Progressive 440s, buttery smooth and the price reflects that. I suspect Hagon Nitro shocks fit in that same category but I have no experience with them. For me, Hagon's 2810 shock was the best compromise between comfort and money...although I have to admit a cost benefit analysis over the length of ownership reduces the high price tag of top line shocks to sensible proportions. Now if I could just convince myself to fork over the big moolah...


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oldroadie #493056 06/17/2012 10:12 AM
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Maybe you're too light for the springs.
6 meals a day for a couple months will fix you right up.


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Re: question; myBA/rides a bit stffer/than my shadow ?
BrianT #493057 06/17/2012 10:22 AM
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Quite the funny guy this morning brian!!


Old roadie how you been man I haven't been here in awhile.I was speaking of just the front being stiffer than i think it ought to be???----different springs maybe???? bob s

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bsa_bob #493058 06/17/2012 10:26 AM
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Lighter oil or less preload via the spacer are the first things I would try.


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Zmilin #493059 06/17/2012 10:38 AM
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What Z said. Our bikes run 10 wt. fork oil; you could make some 7.5 by mixing a container of 5wt. with 10wt. Or you could just try 5 wt.

The bigger question might be how much sag do you have up front. Seems like 25mm of load is the desired amount, when you sit on the bike do you get that? If not, you likely have too much preload and you need a shorter spacer. Don't cut the stock ones, by some PVC and cut that to suit.


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oldroadie #493060 06/17/2012 11:39 AM
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Hey thats exactlty what i needed to hear. .I know where to start now .that spacer is about 3/4" conduit isn't it. jus checkin before i pik up the pvc. thank you ole roadie, are you gonna chase these singers ,and such around a lot longer??I am redoing a 55 chev bel-air at present. back to my roots see ya buddie bob s thanks again

I remember putting about a 5% mix in for fork oil


btw "no sag" I have to really hit the bars with the hand brake on,to get bounce out of it as it is right now . My shadow i can bounce with one hand standing next to it. not so with the BA

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bsa_bob #493061 06/17/2012 12:12 PM
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Quote:



btw "no sag" I have to really hit the bars with the hand brake on,to get bounce out of it as it is right now . My shadow i can bounce with one hand standing next to it. not so with the BA




1" if I recall, and the heavy wall stuff (is that schedule 40?) and you only need a foot. You really want that front fork to settle a inch when you sit down, you've got no sag now and that's a big contributor to a harsh ride.


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oldroadie #493062 06/17/2012 1:38 PM
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funny i put those progressives on the front the other day and cut the spacer so they were the same length as the OEM and the ride is much much better, no jolting on harsh bumps etc, rides so much nicer.


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edmspeedmaster #493063 06/17/2012 2:42 PM
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I'm thinking Bob rebuilt a wrecked bike that had big front end damage. He might not have access to the original spacers, original springs or both.

As you found, matching the stock length with Progressives works nice. That's how mine is set up too,


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Yes, PVC Schedule 40.

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oldroadie #493065 06/17/2012 7:26 PM
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Quote:

I'm thinking Bob rebuilt a wrecked bike that had big front end damage. He might not have access to the original spacers, original springs or both.

As you found, matching the stock length with Progressives

works nice. That's how mine is set up too,







Maybe a set of progresives and a shorter spacer. Will this operation be strictly "cut and try". /or is there a measurement [how much]to try,to cut off the stock length spacer i need to try?jus some idea how where to cut the #40 pvc replacement spacer. hope you underestand this . thanks bob s i am making a new pvc spacer.Iam trying the stock springs, with this new spacer,What if anyone can remember is the stock spacer length,,,,,and the length i'm going to make the new spacer.


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bsa_bob #493066 06/17/2012 8:22 PM
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Okay, so you got it on the lift and the fork nut is undone; how much spacer is protruding? It'll be easier to reverse engineer this...


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OK the .........top nut is out ...the spacer stands just above "level" a 1/4" .............above the threads of the tube.I have to force the spring down .turning the top nuts at the same time till the threads catch


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