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The pipes on my new-to-me America are just too loud... my ears are ringing. The pipes OD is 3" with little taper on the muffler section. The ID is about 2 7/8". I think the head pipes with heat shields are stock as there is a crossover between the head pipes. There is a reduction inside the muffler about 8 to 10 inches in; hard to measure exactly as they are slash cut but the reduction appears to be roughly 2". There is a hole in the muffler where a baffle once lived. There is no heat shield on the muffler part. I suspect the baffle was 8" or so. Anyone have an idea what type mufflers I own? Where can I buy some quiet baffles. HardKrome sells 3" baffles and I am not sure if that means they fit 3" OD or ID; I will check with them. 
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Looks like you got Epco pipes here ,I love mine and some earplugs
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There is NO such thing as "Too LOUD"  You dang old folks 
Are we there YET? I gotta go pee!!
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Epco's are one of the loudest aftermarket pipes out there. You could buy a less loud type and sell the Epco's on here to offset the cost. TORs (Triumph Off Road) are a little louder than stock, but not too loud. There is a loudness comparison somewhere on here between different mufflers, I think. I think that stuffing an aftermarket baffle into your Epco's would be more trouble than it would be worth, and hard to get right.
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those look a lot like Scepters to me
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"Lighten up, Francis."
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It's a muffer. DUH. 
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And you can get extra baffles from Team Triumph in Wisconsin http://www.rideteamtriumph.com/america_&_speedmaster.htmThe Silver inserts will quiet them down a ton. I have Gold on mine after riding for years with only the stock baffles. You will know they are Scepters if they have a serial number on the inside behind the welded on mounting bracket
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those look a lot like Scepters to me
Agree
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those look a lot like Scepters to me
Agree
My first thought too.
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It's a muffer. DUH.

Are we there YET? I gotta go pee!!
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There is NO such thing as "Too LOUD" 
+1 agreed
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There is NO such thing as "Too LOUD" 
+1 agreed
Actually, yes there is.

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Forgot about that one Soren.  He was just jealous because you sound like a real motorbike and not a weedwacker.
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I am old. I like peace and quiet. I already own bikes that are much faster and they are quiet too. There is a reason there are different types of pipes; something for everyone I guess.
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buy a set of tors or even a set of bubs
2007 Speedmaster and miss it!
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Does anyone know if a Sceptre Exhaust will work with an aftermarket center stand? Team Triumph doesn't open till 10AM and I will give them a call later this AM. thanks wg
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If you seek a quiet bike, Sceptres seem like the wrong direction?
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Thanks for the insight. I already OWN Sceptres and am going to check on baffles; it seems it might cost less to use what I have with baffles than find stock mufflers.
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Thanks for the insight. I already OWN Sceptres and am going to check on baffles; it seems it might cost less to use what I have with baffles than find stock mufflers.
I would consider a trade stock pipes for what you have.
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Forgot about that one Soren. 
He was just jealous because you sound like a real motorbike and not a weedwacker.

Are we there YET? I gotta go pee!!
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Since the stock pipes can be had for around $200 (or less) shipped via eBay or otherwise and the Spectre pipes go for $650 new and mine are in very nice condition, you will have to make me a deal involving a bit of cash. I have already had a couple guys nibbling. Take this to PM if you are really interested. If I go for stock pipes, they will have to be in good condition and have all the innards intact. Thanks - wg
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I have Stainless Ride which I believe use to be Epco, the pipe slash is facing the wrong way to be Epco if they kept the same design. I will say that mine are loud but no complaints. 
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I still say Scepters, The Epco seems to have a less pronou8nced taper at the header end.
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There is a number on the inside of the black mount; mine were Z42 (I think that is what it said as it is hard to tell the zed from the two)
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Anybody with a set of Sceptres have a number on the inside of their mount brackets... the actual number seemed to be Z42 L on the left bracket. I suspect the L was for left.
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There is NO such thing as "Too LOUD" 
+1 agreed
++1 loud pipes get more attention from the cagers....i.e. safer...loud is good...ear plugs work too 
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I will happily trade stock pipes off my 2010 America for those... Assuming they will work with EFI etc?
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What? I can't hear you over the ringing in my ears! Here is a picture of mine. Don't know what they are. They are straight cut and loud. I like the way they sound and I have been told by V-Twin owners that they wished their bike sounded like mine! 
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I now have stock mufflers on my BA and am very happy to have it that way. I don't care for loud pipes anymore; I outgrew that stage in my life. I have been riding for longer and owned more bikes than most and I suppose that it isn't cool to like quiet bikes but I am not cool.. I am me.
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Right on George,thats why they say go your own way.
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