 Disappointing facts in the music business
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Ok, it's a damp rainy miserable Sunday afternoon and I am bored. Anyway, this was pretty funny Disappointing facts about music industry
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Whew, that's a relief; I thought you were going to expose this charade I call a "career."
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Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
H. L. Mencken
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sad. very sad. talent doesn't seem to mean anything anymore.
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However, in 30 years we will still be listening to Hendrix, Zepplin, and The Beatles. And people will be like Justin who??
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Yup, a dismal commentary on our so called culture.
I have no faith in human perfectability. I think that human exertion will have no appreciable effect upon humanity. Man is now only more active - not more happy - nor more wise, than he was 6000 years ago.
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I don't know anything about music cept I don't like today's music. Typical old guy rant.
But, I think that girl Gaga is gonna be a long time music icon. And oh wow, can she play the piano.
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you have to facter in all the access there is to music today and the ad machines that promote it. we never had the ability to download anything or just buy one song (except 45's) so the industry has changed dramaticly in 20yrs. i think they need to change what qualifies as gold or platinum these days. GFR was one of the best selling bands of their era but have never been inducted into the hall of fame??? when the bands of yesteryear were hot and recording we had to save to buy albums and they were'nt cheap (relitively speaking) so it was a lot for a kid to buy one, today its as easy as $0.99 to get just about anything and the kids today buy into the hype. we had AM radio which only played a select small portion of the music that was available and then came FM which promised to play the things we wanted to hear and now there is so many outlets that its no wonder the sales are up. it seems that anybody with the right machine behind them gets to be famous. SAD!!!!! there was a time when you had to be something special to get a deal and it seems nowadays anybody, no matter how bad they suck can get a deal. so it comes as no suprise to me that the music biz is where it is today. some of todays music makers would have been one hit wonders a few yrs ago. i am thinking of people like katie perry and there have always been biebers (think bobby sherman hahaha) but the machine keeps them alive. its always been about the $$$$ but it is very sad how it has gotten. i think in some ways it just another form of the payola days of yesterday. dont get me wrong, just like then today there are some that deserve to be where they are but there are some that should make one song and go home and as it has always been there are some that sould not have even been allowed in the studio. but it boils down to publicity and the machine behind you. my father would never give me money to buy music even though our house was full of it and today its nothing for a kid to buy anything he/she wants thanks to mom and dad. Bands like zepp wernt recording trying to make hits they were recording what they felt that they and their fans enjoyed. bands like GFR were writing songs that were making statements trying to open peoples eyes to problems not planned top 10 hits. today its all run by the hitmakers. John Maher(sp) is a fine example, he came to us first with radio hits and once he got his name out there he started recording songs that he liked that were'nt planned radio hits (you dont hear blues on reg. radio) but he new how to play the machine and he did it well.
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Back in my day ( being said in my OLD man voice)  Guess I'm still to young I like a lot of those artist on the list new and old ! BUT to me good music is good music no matter what rock, rap,techno ,blues ,country 
Are we there YET? I gotta go pee!!
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I never heard of any of them. If they sound like they look, I'm glad.
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Well, all I can say here is that while I'm not much into most of the latest music(classic rock fan here, mostly), this article reminded me of my father saying to this 13 y/o at the time here one February Sunday night in 1964 after a certain mop-top group of British young men played their first gig on The Ed Sullivan Show: "Those kids will just be a flash-in-the-pan and you'll never hear of 'em again in a couple year's time! What was with all that 'Yeah yeah yeah' stuff anyway? Sinatra or Elvis never sang 'Yeah yeah yeah'!"
Point being, each generation has their own "thing", and only time will tell if any of these newer artists will ever become more than just "flashes-in-the-pans". AND, don't forget, it is MUCH easier nowadays to just download music off the net than it was to go to the record shops back then to purchase a record. And so, I question the "statistics" the author of this article used to make his point.
(...btw, my father did eventually come around to admit those "mop-tops" had "some" talent...he would go on to especially like "Eleanor Rigby", and for some reason, "Rocky Raccoon")
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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I remember the hysteria that was Hanson many years ago. They came to Aus and were screamed at by a bunch of mindless teenagers much to my bemusement. I saw an advertisement claiming that they were touring here again this year. The announcement came and went without a murmur or much interest from anybody.
The point is, if the stones, Floyd or zeppelin toured the venues would be sold out in minutes. Prince (love him or hate him) announced a tour last week and the place went bizerk!! I think people still appreciate talent with depth rather than looks and voice tuners.
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I don't know anything about music cept I don't like today's music. Typical old guy rant.
But, I think that girl Gaga is gonna be a long time music icon. And oh wow, can she play the piano.
Huh! And I thought I was the only crazy old guy on here to recognize Gaga's talent! But like Dave said, a few years from now and nobody is gonna play this crap that is the top ten nowadays. I have been spouting my own criticism of new music in this way... Take any top ten song, and tell me,...Can ya hum the tune? If ya can't find a tune, it ain't gonna be lasting music. Which is true of most of Rhianna's stuff. And the majority of Hip Hop.
A catchy tune can last forever, in one form or another. How many on here know that "twinkle, twinkle little star", is Mozart!
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Wow! that is a new Joplin isn't it.
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Yep Ron, and here's ya maybe a new Ella Fitzgerald.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gDva6KOVYg
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Bad news, Levon Helm is in the last stages of cancer according to his daughter.
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
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So, sadly it appears Levon has just "pulled into Nazareth" for the very last time, eh Mac?! In other news, Robin Gibb is reportedly just barely "staying alive" at the moment also. (...sorry, but you know me..."Irreverent" is my middle name...okay, actually it's "Earl") 
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Alvin Lee, The Grateful Dead, Jethro Tull, Beach Boys, Kansas, Elvis, Jefferson Airplane, Clapton, Frank Zappa, Santana, Steely Dan, Allman Brothers, Outlaws, Johnny Cash, Willie Nelson, Kristofferson, Buddy Holly, Dave Brubeck, Charlie Parker, Canned Heat, Four Tops, Four Seasons, Al Greene, Smokey Robinson, Fleetwood Mac, Chet Atkins, Dire Straits, Les Paul, etc...(are you kidding? Today does NOT have musicians...it has machines. Rap is not music, and it sucks worse than Disco ever did. There's some good country stuff still,but mostly just more garbage)...Hank Williams, The Stones, Jerry Lee, Jerry Hahn, Atlanta Rhythm Section, B.B. King, Guess Who, Steppenwolf, The Ventures, Dick Dale, Steve Miller, Stevie Wonder, Paul Simon, Otis REdding, Gladys Knight, Aretha, Booker T, Spinners, CSN, Neil Young, Cat Stevens, Dave Clark Five, James Taylor, Alice Cooper, Doobie Brothers... And these are just a small sampling of the good stuff we all got to hear. No wonder kids aren't allright, anymore...They need a good dose of some Rock and Roll Hoochie Koo!!! J. Geils, Humble Pie, HOt Tuna, Billy Preston, The Doors, Creedence, Joany Mitchell, The Byrds, The Yardbirds, ET AL!
Crankin' the Jams...cheers.
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Alvin Lee, The Grateful Dead, Jethro Tull, Beach Boys, Kansas, Elvis, Jefferson Airplane, Clapton, Frank Zappa, Santana, Steely Dan, Allman Brothers, Outlaws, Johnny Cash, Willie Nelson, Kristofferson, Buddy Holly, Dave Brubeck, Charlie Parker, Canned Heat, Four Tops, Four Seasons, Al Greene, Smokey Robinson, Fleetwood Mac, Chet Atkins, Dire Straits, Les Paul, etc...(are you kidding? Today does NOT have musicians...it has machines. Rap is not music, and it sucks worse than Disco ever did. There's some good country stuff still,but mostly just more garbage)...Hank Williams, The Stones, Jerry Lee, Jerry Hahn, Atlanta Rhythm Section, B.B. King, Guess Who, Steppenwolf, The Ventures, Dick Dale, Steve Miller, Stevie Wonder, Paul Simon, Otis REdding, Gladys Knight, Aretha, Booker T, Spinners, CSN, Neil Young, Cat Stevens, Dave Clark Five, James Taylor, Alice Cooper, Doobie Brothers... And these are just a small sampling of the good stuff we all got to hear. No wonder kids aren't allright, anymore...They need a good dose of some Rock and Roll Hoochie Koo!!! J. Geils, Humble Pie, HOt Tuna, Billy Preston, The Doors, Creedence, Joany Mitchell, The Byrds, The Yardbirds, ET AL!
Crankin' the Jams...cheers.
Read through the your list, I know not complete, not a bad one in the bunch. 
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
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Alvin Lee, The Grateful Dead, Jethro Tull, Beach Boys, Kansas, Elvis, Jefferson Airplane, Clapton, Frank Zappa, Santana, Steely Dan, Allman Brothers, Outlaws, Johnny Cash, Willie Nelson, Kristofferson, Buddy Holly, Dave Brubeck, Charlie Parker, Canned Heat, Four Tops, Four Seasons, Al Greene, Smokey Robinson, Fleetwood Mac, Chet Atkins, Dire Straits, Les Paul, etc...(are you kidding? Today does NOT have musicians...it has machines. Rap is not music, and it sucks worse than Disco ever did. There's some good country stuff still,but mostly just more garbage)...Hank Williams, The Stones, Jerry Lee, Jerry Hahn, Atlanta Rhythm Section, B.B. King, Guess Who, Steppenwolf, The Ventures, Dick Dale, Steve Miller, Stevie Wonder, Paul Simon, Otis REdding, Gladys Knight, Aretha, Booker T, Spinners, CSN, Neil Young, Cat Stevens, Dave Clark Five, James Taylor, Alice Cooper, Doobie Brothers... And these are just a small sampling of the good stuff we all got to hear. No wonder kids aren't allright, anymore...They need a good dose of some Rock and Roll Hoochie Koo!!! J. Geils, Humble Pie, HOt Tuna, Billy Preston, The Doors, Creedence, Joany Mitchell, The Byrds, The Yardbirds, ET AL!
Crankin' the Jams...cheers.
Read through the your list, I know not complete, not a bad one in the bunch.
Thanks man! Say, there's a guy in K.C. who is a really great musician, and does a regualr gig in a well-known club there...(though the name of the establishment escapes me), his name is Jeff Porter, and it'd be worth your while to go check him out. He's also got a number of records out. If you've been around K.C. for any length of time, you've no doubt heard of him. Good stuff. Ok...and thanks again, and keep on rockin'!
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